Our 2nd Amendment Rights Are To protect American From Both Foreign and Domestic Threats (suspect, wisdom)

[NC211]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

"Not for everyone to have an arsenal in their sheds "

Your entire premise about the 2nd amendment is a farce.

Back it up.

"that idiot""was to allow the assault weapon ban to expire"

Funny you call others idiots yet you continue to use the term "assault" weapon.

It is OBVIOUS, you are NOT as smart as you THINK you are!

Here we go AGAIN for the hundredth time.

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Haha!!! This made me laugh.

Again, written when the United States amounted to what is less than Cincinnati Ohio today, and a sinus infection would kill you.

Last I checked, the DeLorean was still broken.

[Taratova]

Originally Posted by Rambler123

Is the OP's post some sort of joke?

Nobody is going to "invade America" in the traditional sense. If troops every landed on our shores, the nation would have already been bombed and/or nuked into ruin, and an angry group of pot-bellied red-necks flying rebel flags with AK-47's and AR-15's is not going to stop the invaders.

Ironically, the one group that could be considered invading - illegals - is happily welcomed here by our corporate plutocrats. That being said, again, angry militia men are not the solution to this problem, either.

I am dam2n tired of the laughable excuses given day after day as to why we "need" weapons of war - high-end guns - to "keep America free."

One day, we're to believe it's because thugs are immune to revolver rounds. The next day, deer apparently can only be killed with a weapon that can fire at least 45-rounds per minute. After that, we get to the "we gotta kill the gubermint!" lunatics, and now we're down to some fantasy world where hordes of soldiers from heaven only knows where are going to defeat the US military but then be beaten by angry guys in pickup trucks.

People need to stop confusing Hollywood movies and TV series with reality.

In an invasion you would be asking if you could have a powerful weapon to protect your family from being slaughtered.

[Taratova]

Originally Posted by jambo101

Whos "they"?

Those who want to kill us. Do you know armies invade countries ?

The wise look at history and realize that many countries were invaded not that long ago. It is called reality.

[TEPLimey]

Originally Posted by Taratova

Those who want to kill us. Do you know armies invade countries ?

The wise look at history and realize that many countries were invaded not that long ago. It is called reality.

Really? How many armies have invaded the US since in the last 200 years?

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by hawaiiancoconut

Entertaining video. They get their information on guns on CNN and Twitter, Lmao

Why am I not surprised.

I hear things like "chainsaw bayonets" and "fully semiautomatic" Lmao!

What a joke the left brings to the table.

Mildred Ross 89, pulled over by DPS on I-35 doing 84 in a 75.
The trooper asked for her license and insurance.
Mildred handed him a bunch of cards. As the trooper filed through them wondering why so many, he came across a conceal carry permit.
He asked Mildred if she had a weapon in the vehicle with her. She replied, "You bet I do"
Asking where it is, Mildred said, I got a 1911 .45 in the glove box.
The way she said it, the trooper asked if she had any other weapons in the vehicle. She replied, I got a Glock 23 .40 cal in the console.
Puzzled the trooper asked are there any other weapons I should be aware of? I got a S&W .38 in my waist belt.

The trooper stood back in bewilderment... asking Mrs. Ross, what are you scared of?
Mildred replied, Not a damn thing.

Have a nice day Mrs. Ross and slow down.

[eqttrdr]

Read further into the constitution and you will find the section on how the "shall not be infringed" includes a clause that overrides that as long as there is a bald teenage militant lesbian demanding gun control.

[eqttrdr]

Several million ILLEGAL immigrants Many who commit violent crimes = Well their already here so lets accept it and integrate them safely into society.

300 million LEGAL guns = Accept fact and have better Safety, training and monitoring? Nope...Ban them.

Love leftist logic.

[serger]

Originally Posted by Taratova

Those who want to disarm Americans just do not understand the we Americans have a right to defend ourselves. If we were invaded by a foreign entity as in the history of many countries,we would be an easy target to round up and kill.

Don't say it is far fetched. We have well documented events that this has happened time and time again. Our forefathers wanted to protect us and not leave us Americans defenseless against foreign or domestic threats.

Those attacking the NRA are actually taking our rights away. Many people do not understand this fact.

Lol, and which entity would that be, Martians? Last time I checked we are spending 1 trillion on military so should be sufficient.

[Taratova]

Originally Posted by TEPLimey

Really? How many armies have invaded the US since in the last 200 years?

Never say never.

[TEPLimey]

Originally Posted by Taratova

Never say never.

I thought "the wise look at history". Are you changing that to "the wise learn from assuming highly unlikely and absurd future events will come to pass"?