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OP...Dems suffer from the perfection syndrome. They are always trying to fix things by taking away freedoms.
Look at the UK. They confiscate all the guns, then go for the knives. Now they are requiring people to register their BB guns in Scotland.
The NRA needs to form a US Patriot Militia and preempt any more attacks on the 2A by lawing down the law. As the Dems take power it is only a matter of time before they try to call in the guns. The 2A needs to be taken off the table now...it is not negotiable now, nor never.
There simply will not be a mass gun seizure/ban. Not going to happen.
But why is the NRA and others fighting so hard against those temporary protection orders? If family members say someone is mentally unstable and is an immediate threat to themselves or others...they don't want anything to be done about it?
I thought they were for those. If they’re not, a lot of Republicans are.
The right to bear arms does NOT translate into "the right to bear ANY arms you want, regardless of your past, mental state, criminal background, etc." I'm very tired of the right pretending that is the case.
Tired you may be, but, if people have the right to life and the right to bear arms to defend that life, where does servant government have the delegated power to DENY that right BEFORE anything wrong is committed?
Under our form of government, you're subject to prosecution AFTER you commit a criminal act that injures another.
Abolishing liberty to PREVENT crime only abolishes liberty - a crime in itself.
As to past actions, convicted felons already are barred, and those walking around in such a mental state that they pose a threat should be committed to a hospital. OH. RIGHT. Glorious socialism ran out of funding for that generations ago and dumped them in the streets.
Frankly, it's an incompetent government that is at fault, not the lack of laws.
"Weapons of War" are not covered by 2A. Now you know so you don't have to ask the next time you see the phrase. Tell all your buddies, too, who constantly try to deflect because they either don't understand the context or don't want to have to deal with the facts.
Thanks for your help. I have no intentions of addressing this stupid question again. We can always go back to "assault rifles", if you prefer, and we'll all still know what we're talking about, won't we...?
Not according to the Supreme Court. The defining case was the Miller decision in regard to the 1934 National Firearms Act. The case was about a pair of moonshiners that had a sawed off shotgun (short barreled shotgun). They argued that the NFA was unconstitutional-which was found in their favor at lower courts. It eventually went to the SC-the oddity being that no one showed up to argue for the NFA being found unconstitutional (the plaintiffs had disappeared) so only the federal government's side was heard. The NFA was found to be constitutional specifically because the gun in question was NOT a military weapon and there was no one demonstrating that such a gun WAS in use by the military (never mind that they actually were and had been for decades, see "trench gun").
the problem comes though since the gun grabbers are poor marksmen. they say they want to aim at the criminals and the mentally ill, but they end up hitting the law abiding gun owners instead.
Got proof? Overwhelming proof?
I've heard this lame supposition for three decades. Printz vs. U.S. neutered the NICS system, Trump repealed a mandate that mentally unfit persons be put on the watch list...
So who has been hurt?
Kids. That's who.
Sick, tired, lame excuses from the 2A rabid. People have grown quite tired of this $hit.
Why does anyone need a gun that looks like it’s a military weapon designed to kill people?
“Shall not be infringed” means I can buy nukes, rocket launchers, grenade launchers, and fully-automatic weapons, right?
Wrong.
Means you get to own guns. Does not mean you get to own any kind you want.
Seriously? You think that because a gun LOOKS like it’s a military weapon that somehow makes it more deadly? Seriously?
Oh, I’m not so sure about nukes, but any American citizen that can jump through the hoops and pay a $200 tax can own the other things you mentioned!
Are you even aware that legally owned real assault weapons have only been used illegally 3 times since 1934?
The silliness of some of the arguments in favor of passing laws that will do nothing to affect crime but will only infringe on the rights of law abiding Americans is beyond absurd!
I thought they were for those. If they’re not, a lot of Republicans are.
There's a lot of screaming about a lack of due process and how they're crazy ex girlfriend could have their guns taken away. But such laws do have due process provisions, penalties for false petitions, and are temporary and able to be appealed.
If that rifle is not magazine fed then yes big difference.
the M1 garand had an eight round internal magazine. the M14 has a detachable magazine.
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Originally Posted by cuebald
"Weapons of War" are not covered by 2A. Now you know so you don't have to ask the next time you see the phrase. Tell all your buddies, too, who constantly try to deflect because they either don't understand the context or don't want to have to deal with the facts.
Thanks for your help. I have no intentions of addressing this stupid question again. We can always go back to "assault rifles", if you prefer, and we'll all still know what we're talking about, won't we...?
where does teh second amendment say, except weapons of war?
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Originally Posted by Threerun
Got proof? Overwhelming proof?
I've heard this lame supposition for three decades. Printz vs. U.S. neutered the NICS system, Trump repealed a mandate that mentally unfit persons be put on the watch list...
So who has been hurt?
Kids. That's who.
Sick, tired, lame excuses from the 2A rabid. People have grown quite tired of this $hit.
every time a new gun control law is either proposed, or instituted, who does it actually affect? certainly not the criminals, but rather the law abiding citizens. think about it.
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