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Old 03-01-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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Of course, it's abundantly clear that the Second Amendment was actually intended to provide for the defense of the country, without any idea of allowing the wacko gun justification we see today.

But, in any case, I stumbled across a very interesting interview of a Second Amendment expert named Robert McWhirter. As you presumably know, most gun advocates try to push for a gun free-for-all based on the idea of what colonial America was like. Well, McWhirter said, among other things:

-Guns were intended for use by militias. Since America had no standing army, the men could be called up to fight a war against Indians or help in case of a national disaster.

-Guns were, in fact, heavily regulated at the time ("a world of gun control" was his phrase).

-Gun ownership was considered a taxation, not a privilege.

-One of the main purposes of gun ownership was to be able to suppress any possible slave rebellion, which is why gun owners were strongest in the south.

And he said - this was so surprising to me that I had to check to make sure I heard it right - that guns were often stored publicly, not at home.

(Can you imagine if gun owners were told: You can keep one gun for yourself at home, but anything more than that has to be stored in the downtown armory.)
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Old 03-01-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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Of course, it's abundantly clear that the Second Amendment was actually intended to provide for the defense of the country, without any idea of allowing the wacko gun justification we see today.

But, in any case, I stumbled across a very interesting interview of a Second Amendment expert named Robert McWhirter. As you presumably know, most gun advocates try to push for a gun free-for-all based on the idea of what colonial America was like. Well, McWhirter said, among other things:

-Guns were intended for use by militias. Since America had no standing army, the men could be called up to fight a war against Indians or help in case of a national disaster.

-Guns were, in fact, heavily regulated at the time ("a world of gun control" was his phrase).

-Gun ownership was considered a taxation, not a privilege.

-One of the main purposes of gun ownership was to be able to suppress any possible slave rebellion, which is why gun owners were strongest in the south.

And he said - this was so surprising to me that I had to check to make sure I heard it right - that guns were often stored publicly, not at home.

(Can you imagine if gun owners were told: You can keep one gun for yourself at home, but anything more than that has to be stored in the downtown armory.)
link? i suspect he is quite wrong with his assertions though.
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Old 03-01-2018, 06:19 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Of course, it's abundantly clear that the Second Amendment was actually intended to provide for the defense of the country, without any idea of allowing the wacko gun justification we see today.

But, in any case, I stumbled across a very interesting interview of a Second Amendment expert named Robert McWhirter. As you presumably know, most gun advocates try to push for a gun free-for-all based on the idea of what colonial America was like. Well, McWhirter said, among other things:

-Guns were intended for use by militias. Since America had no standing army, the men could be called up to fight a war against Indians or help in case of a national disaster.

-Guns were, in fact, heavily regulated at the time ("a world of gun control" was his phrase).

-Gun ownership was considered a taxation, not a privilege.

-One of the main purposes of gun ownership was to be able to suppress any possible slave rebellion, which is why gun owners were strongest in the south.

And he said - this was so surprising to me that I had to check to make sure I heard it right - that guns were often stored publicly, not at home.

(Can you imagine if gun owners were told: You can keep one gun for yourself at home, but anything more than that has to be stored in the downtown armory.)
McDonald v. Chicago settled that. It overturned the very first challenges to the 2nd amendment. The very 2 rulings all gun legislation is based off of and is used as precedence. Overturned.

Defato, McDonald v. Chicago overturned all gun legislation, laws and regulation, including the 1934 and 1986 firearm acts.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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Of course, it's abundantly clear that the Second Amendment was actually intended to provide for the defense of the country, without any idea of allowing the wacko gun justification we see today.

But, in any case, I stumbled across a very interesting interview of a Second Amendment expert named Robert McWhirter. As you presumably know, most gun advocates try to push for a gun free-for-all based on the idea of what colonial America was like. Well, McWhirter said, among other things:

-Guns were intended for use by militias. Since America had no standing army, the men could be called up to fight a war against Indians or help in case of a national disaster.

-Guns were, in fact, heavily regulated at the time ("a world of gun control" was his phrase).

-Gun ownership was considered a taxation, not a privilege.

-One of the main purposes of gun ownership was to be able to suppress any possible slave rebellion, which is why gun owners were strongest in the south.

And he said - this was so surprising to me that I had to check to make sure I heard it right - that guns were often stored publicly, not at home.

(Can you imagine if gun owners were told: You can keep one gun for yourself at home, but anything more than that has to be stored in the downtown armory.)

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

At the time it was written, the wording well regulated quite literally meant in good working order. So for a Militia which was to be made up any able bodied person, to be in good working order, it was expected that the people responding that were a part of the Militia bring their own firearms.
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