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No kidding, a lot of young people want stuff like free college, free heathcare, and subsidized housing. They haven't figured out how to pay for those programs.
You can tell this by certain conservative's desperate hopes that the voting age will be raised to 21.
I mean if constitutional rights are up for debate now I'm gonna propose those who get gov assistance for more than 3 months in a lifetime cannot vote. If you grew up on welfare you have to pay back your debts before voting. Cruel and unusual punishment is a farce for liberals to coddle criminals. I will gas all 750 of the California death row inmates tomorrow morning if you need me to. The ones in jail now not convicted of anything I'll just keep them there for 75 years. Who's to say what speedy is. Hell the 13th??? Where do you think all you non paying people are going? 15th? nope we gotta back to the standard of when the 2nd was written. Cannot be denied or unabridged means nothing. 19th gotta go. The founders didn't envision modern looking semi auto rifles so they definitely did not envision women worthy of voting. 24th gotta go again, you don't pay you don't vote. 26th gone, 18 year olds don't vote anymore so all these clowns on tv don't matter.
maybe we should just repeal this outdate pos. then They would all start demanding arms equal to the governments to fight off this tyrannical government that just stripped everyone of their rights.... you really cannot fix stupid with these people.
I have no problem with the idea of a friendly divorce, obviously that would be the best option. We conservatives have no problem with that. However liberals by thier nature will not leave us alone. They intend, as they have been doing to force us to live the way they think we should. Abortion and gay marriage were forced upon us illegally and unconstitutionally by the courts. Our founding fathers wisely spelled out the role of the federal government in the constitution and defined the rights of states in the 10th amendment. This was done so diverse states could have laws reflecting thier own values all while cooperating with the other American states through the federal government for the common good of the nation. Liberals refuse to respect this constitutional relationship. If they were willing to let us be we would not be in this situation to begin with.
Have you ever heard of a red state conservative who pushes to stop a gay marriage in Massachusetts or stop a legal pot smoker in Seattle? We support states rights and feel it is thier right to have those laws even if we find them repulsive. In fact I would fight a war to protect thier constitutional right to make thier own laws. Liberals feel so strongly that we are just ignorant backward hicks in need of enlightenment that they feel justified in violating our constitutional rights. If they don’t live down here then it is not thier business if we marry gays, have legal dope or allow abortion. I don’t really care about thier 14th amendment “equal protection clause” justication as that can obviously be used to usher in special rights and protections for any liberal darling group being as vague as the equal protection clause is. Liberals love to look at the constitution as a living document full of grey areas for thier courts to make judgements on.
Conservatives expect the constitution to be followed as it is written, that includes all of the bill of rights. We will not give up our free speech, guns and we expect our states to make laws reflecting our values as the 10 amendment prescribes. I am willing to see a civil war to ensure my gauranteed rights are protected, even if they can only be saved in my part of the country. If the north doesn’t want freedom anymore that is thier business but I am not giving mine up. It would be up to the liberal states to decide whether to fight or not as we are not the ones demanding they live our way, THEY are placing the demands on us. Ideally we all would go back to living by our constitution and avoid a tragic civil war to begin with.
America is a federation not a confederation, states' rights are a LIMITED achievement, states have a limit on how far they can go, and whoever has always determined that limit ...throughout history has been the Supreme Court.... and the Congress... the South has not. can continue to apply segregation, california can not ban arms, mississipi can not criminalize sodomy, talking about state rights is an illusion, this has never really existed.
The most recent Pew Research Survey has more detail about the generational divide. It shows that the old saw that young people would naturally grow more conservative as they age, or that their Democratic loyalties were an idiosyncratic response to Barack Obama’s unique personal appeal, has not held. Younger voters have distinctly more liberal views than older voters:
Pew survey: Party ID by Generation:
Rather than growing more conservative as they grow older, millennials as a group are becoming more liberal.
Gen Xers are basically holding steady in partisanship. In 2014, GenXers favored Democrats by 9%; at this point in 2017 they are D+10.
On Trump Job Approval by Generation, Trump is underwater by 38%; Gen Xers by -21%; Boomers by -7%; Silents by -2%; overall -20 (37% approve with 57% disapprove)
Silent Generation (age 73 to 90) (11% of adult pop; 79% n/h white)
43% Democrat/57% Republican
Boomer Generation (age 54 to 72): 29% of adult pop; 72% n/h white
48% Democrat/46% Republican
Gen X (age 38 to 53 ): 26% of adult pop; 62% n/h white
48% Democrat/43% Republican
Millennials (age 22 to 37): 28% of adult pop; 56% n/h white
59% Democrat/32% Republican
Post-Millennials (age 18-21) 5% of adult pop; 53% n/h white
Regarding the early indications of the leanings of post- millennials, a PRRI survey at the time of the 2016 election showed that among respondents aged 15 to 24 years of age, 57% favored the election of Hillary Clinton. At the same time, the annual ci election by Scholastic Magazine of school children favored Clinton over Trump by 52% to 35%. In contrast to conservative beliefs, the post-millennial generation’s political orientation is still forming, since the lion ‘s share of that generation have not yet reached their political formative years or young adulthood, but the oldest members of that generation who have reached adulthood have shown no such sharp break with millennials.
Linked is a short podcast by Bill Frey of Brookings discussing the above.
he lost the popular vote by more then any president in history. He won by focusing on the electoral states better then Clinton did, and he won those by a mere 80,000 votes.
This is unlikely to be repeated.
"he lost the popular vote by more then any president in history."
And where did most of those votes come from?
CA and NY.
Surprise surprise.
It's funny, some have said the number if illegals in Ca. equal the number of vote Trump lost Ca by.
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The problem with this whole debate is that it proves that as a whole the U.S. citizens are getting more stupid. When political agendas are being pushed because of the (R) or (D) behind a name regardless of their stance on the issue, and when one issue no matter how inane becomes an important campaign issue there is a problem. Politicians and our citizens when voting used to have a certain criteria, the hierarchy being Country, Family and Community. Now the only criteria seems to be My party, My need and my ideals, to hell with the previous three. We're doomed until that changes.
What's with Lefties and polls? The broken-record repetition of them being wrong and they still believe, have to give them credit.
"What's with Lefties and polls?"
Because MOST polls talk to MORE dems then repubs, therefore the "results" favor the dems, even though the repubs hold MORE state and federal government elected positions.
Example Quinnipiac :
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PARTY IDENTIFICATION QUESTION WORDING
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Generally speaking, do you consider yourself a
Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or what?
REGISTERED VOTERS
PARTY IDENTIFICATION
Republican 22%
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