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Old 03-03-2018, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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well, they are about to run out of water, so what the hay?
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Another good liberal heard from.

Not the most progressive of sentiments, or even accurate, but... screw it, right? All that matters is that white South Africans are bad, and therefore anything bad done to them is good, or at least not worth making any fuss over.

Right? Because post-apartheid South Africa is good. It's an a priori fact! Unlike America, South Africa has moral authority. Nothing the South African government does by should be criticized by Americans.

Yeah, that must be it. South Africa is good, and black. So what else, aside from racism, would prompt someone to criticize it?
ROTFLMAO!

Nice of you to just put in the answers you liked..I guess that's much easier that dealing with my responses.


So..Not really concerned with progressive...and yes..it is accurate...do you care to debate history with me..have a go..but i think your chances thin..with this one. Unless you can show me who got paid..vs who just got enslaved?

I don't see that I made any statement at all regarding the good or bad of post-apartheid South Africa. In fact, i couldn't care less about the country..no relevance to my life or my country. You sure lumped a lot of shyte on me..that i never even inferred..much less said.

I'm more interested in what your investment is..to be so adamant about this far away land. To be so invested that you would heap a bunch of opinion on me..just to tear it down.

BTW..for the record..to me, the thought that ANY country would have 'moral authority' is absurd.
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I said of course its racism and bigotry. Cant you read?
Of course I can.

My point however is that it isn't racism. Its the oppressed expelling the opressers.

Race isn't a factor, it's just a distinction. It's the equivalent of putting on different color jerseys . Racism may stem from it in turn, but it isn't the initial cause
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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well, they are about to run out of water, so what the hay?
The Cape Town draught is over actually.

I can understand the anger and resentment held by the black majority, but revenge is never the answer. Wish they could have found a better solution then to simply take their lands by force.
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Japan
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I'm more interested in what your investment is..to be so adamant about this far away land. To be so invested that you would heap a bunch of opinion on me..just to tear it down.
I may have gone a bit overboard on the sarcasm.

Being against intervention, or just saying it's none of my business, is certainly a reasonable position. But I remember the '80s and '90s, when every liberal on the planet was insisting that I care about South Africa.
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BTW..for the record..to me, the thought that ANY country would have 'moral authority' is absurd.
Mandela's South Africa had it, or so we were told by everyone who was anyone.
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:00 AM
 
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But the bantus are not indigenous to South Africa. We're not talking about the whole continent of Africa or who is indigenous to South Africa. You're just not getting it.
Look, this Bantus nonsense is just another obfuscation. Itís a myth thatís been conveniently propagated by the Boers and their sympathizers. South Africaís whites wrote the history as victors, so it must and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Black South Africans are far more trustworthy, and I trust their version of history far more.

The Empty Land Myth | South African History Online

https://m.news24.com/Archives/Witnes...dness-20150430
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Western Asia
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Look, this Bantus nonsense is just another obfuscation. Itís a myth thatís been conveniently propagated by the Boers and their sympathizers. South Africaís whites wrote the history as victors, so it must and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Black South Africans are far more trustworthy, and I trust their version of history far more.

The Empty Land Myth | South African History Online

https://m.news24.com/Archives/Witnes...dness-20150430
I work with several South Africans here in the Middle East and they are all now formulating plans to escape....this will not end well for black South Africans when their economy collapses and there's no food.
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:32 AM
 
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Look, this Bantus nonsense is just another obfuscation. It’s a myth that’s been conveniently propagated by the Boers and their sympathizers. South Africa’s whites wrote the history as victors, so it must and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Black South Africans are far more trustworthy, and I trust their version of history far more.
Why am I not surprised you'd believe their version more? You have a long history in this forum sharing your racist opinions.

The focus should be on the plight of whites in South Africa who are being murdered on a daily basis, including white farmers, in what is clearly a case of an attempt at genocide. Debating 200 year old history to make excuses for what is happening today is nothing more than support for the horrendous, murderous crimes taking place.

You probably didn't watch the Youtube videos I linked to, or check out others. Lauren Southern has one I didn't link to where people described the awful deaths that have occurred. People having their hands cut off and/or eyes taken out and killed, babies being killed, a 12 year old boy being boiled alive, women being raped and killed, etc. https://youtu.be/WCLJRVbaMyQ

Everyone was clamoring for the end of apartheid, why are they so silent now? Because whites are the victims? Clearly.
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:26 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I expect South Africa to have a very different outcome as they are "progressive" on the main issues of the day, including LGBT rights and abortion on demand policies. If you notice, the left really chooses not to go after several groups of people, including:

-Islamists, as they don't want to contribute to "Islamaphobia"
-Illegal immigrants, as they don't want to "break families apart"
-Those countries/individuals/causes that are pro-LGBT rights and abortion on demand; they will not go after Islamist countries, even though they are very anti-LGBT rights and anti-abortion for the reason I listed above
I will point out that supporting Islamists and countries/individuals/causes that are pro-LGBT rights are inherently contradictory. I may start a "Great Debate" on this. Typical for leftists they make zero sense.

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To the left/western world, this move by South Africa will be the seen as the "righting of past wrongs." Zimbabwe didn't catch a break as it was too conservative, socially, on the key issues mentioned above.
I mostly agree with the gist of your post. ANC full knows the outcome of these policies will be to sharply lower progress and increase privation and crime. They also know the result; a major increase in money flows from the UN and the developed world. This was one of the points of a thread in which I was the OP, To the United Nations: Time to Call it a Bad Day. The money and aid, of course, won't go to the people; it will go to the "leaders" for the benefit of their Swiss bank accounts, or for tribal conflict.
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I see it as none of America's damn business! How about you?
But it was 30 years ago. What has changed?
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