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Old 08-25-2018, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Up North
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Look at the media lies!

It’s not the first time a segment on Fox News gets the president tweeting. But it’s the first time Trump claims South African farmers are being mass-murdered.

This myth was fueled by white supremacists for years before it surfaced in a presidential tweet.

More than two decades after the end of apartheid, South African farmland owners remain a predominantly white group. Fringe groups in South Africa and the United States say these white farmers are targeted and killed at disproportionately high rates. There’s no evidence for this claim, experts say, but it feeds the white-supremacist agenda by stoking racial resentment and division.
The truth is the RSA does not document these crimes. That does not make the killings false.
Trump made two claims about South Africa in his tweet: that the government is seizing land from white farmers and that a “large scale killing of farmers” is underway.

The president’s first claim about land seizures has some merit but is mostly false. Trump’s second claim, that South African farmers are being killed on a “large scale,” is a fiction not supported by data.
“The president of South Africa, Cyril Ramaphosa, has begun, and you may have seen this in the press, seizing land from his own citizens without compensation, because they are the wrong skin color,” Carlson said, adding later that Ramaphosa “has changed the country’s constitution to make it possible to steal land from people.”

The South African government is considering a constitutional amendment to expropriate farmland, but that plan has not been finalized, so it’s premature to say that Ramaphosa has “changed the country’s constitution.” The government is also weighing whether it can redistribute farmland under current laws.
So the fact the constitutional change allowing for land seizure with NO COMPENSATION was not yet complete, but is certain to occur, means that Trump was lying!

LIES!

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.812fc8eec0ff
All the left do now is gaslight. Pawn off liberals like Bret Stephens, Rick Wilson, Ana Navaro, Bill Kristol and so on and so on as "conservatives".
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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Whites can't be allowed to live in thrive in Africa or anywhere non-white, but all the non-whites are entitled to live and thrive in white countries so that whites have no where to live and thrive. That's what it is really about.
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:29 PM
 
Location: 125 Years Too Late...
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Whites can't be allowed to live in thrive in Africa or anywhere non-white, but all the non-whites are entitled to live and thrive in white countries so that whites have no where to live and thrive.
Of course. Would you expect any less of a double standard?
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Up North
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And the Native Americans were just as brutal. That was well over 100 years ago and all of those involved are dead. Time to move on because nobody alive right now was responsible or had a thing to do with it.

Also, if you would bother to read actual history, you would find that the "evil white" was not as categorically brutal as you thought he was. Some were. Some weren't. Same applies to Native Americans. In fact, in some places during colonial America, the whites and the Native Americans had a very symbiotic relationship going. But you will likely never read that in today's altered history books. You have to go back to first hand accounts that have not been altered. in "today's history," the whites and Native Americans were always at war, never got along, the white was always the brutal monster and Native American always the angel.

Unfortunately, that has NEVER been the case with any group of humans that have ever existed. Good and evil always has and always will exist in any given population.
The most grotesque lie I ever read while I was in college was that our Founding Fathers "stole" (or "took", or "used") the Iroquois' ideals for the Constitution. I was honestly sickened when I saw that.
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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And the Native Americans were just as brutal. That was well over 100 years ago and all of those involved are dead. Time to move on because nobody alive right now was responsible or had a thing to do with it.

Also, if you would bother to read actual history, you would find that the "evil white" was not as categorically brutal as you thought he was. Some were. Some weren't. Same applies to Native Americans. In fact, in some places during colonial America, the whites and the Native Americans had a very symbiotic relationship going. But you will likely never read that in today's altered history books. You have to go back to first hand accounts that have not been altered. in "today's history," the whites and Native Americans were always at war, never got along, the white was always the brutal monster and Native American always the angel.

Unfortunately, that has NEVER been the case with any group of humans that have ever existed. Good and evil always has and always will exist in any given population.
The colonist and white Americans acted completely proper in their time period and circumstances, not always perfectly or ideally. The whole world including the American Indians operate under the right of conquest. Whites came to a sparsely populated vast wilderness, met violent resistance from various Indian tribes, and built this country from a stone age state. There's nothing to condemn in the big picture. It was glorious in my view.

If you go digging in the history of any other population group besides white they all have a worse history. We either don't know most of it or just don't research it. Anyone who condemns white American history is either just misinformed, which liberals make sure many are, or are just anti-whites or have some anti-white/Anti-American agenda or bias. They misconstrue the present so it's no wonder they try to misconstrue the past.
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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No, I'm stating factually the right continually calls for more military spending and calling for more war supports that call.
No, the reality is, the more formidable the military, the LESS LIKELY it will need to go to war.
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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Are you aware of what it going on in South Africa? Probably not because of media censorship.

New South African president wants to seize land from white farmers without compensation Thi sis property that has been in their family for several generations.
https://www.rt.com/news/420203-south-africa-white-land/

Apparently they are saying that back in the 1600's land was taken from settlers so they are going to now take it back, now that it is developed and a working farm and house there. Not sure how the decide who they are going to give it to or how they justify that.

Lauren Southern explains -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4cC3x5GUl8

So what does America do? Censor it, remember their narrative.
Get your news from multiple sources, for some reason it varies from where you get it from.

This is truly appalling.

South Africa has fallen

"New South African president wants to seize land from white farmers without compensation"

They did it right after Apartheid YEARS ago, so nothing new!
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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And the Right will do WHAT? Call for another asinine war of choice where we don't belong? Call for MORE! MORE! MORE! military spending to support a fight that isn't ours?
While I philosophically lean heavily toward non-intervention in foreign affairs that do not directly threaten our national interests, there are occasions when moral obligation to confront genicidal situations arise .... and particularly so, when such situations are a DIRECT RESULT of international INTERFERENCE and support!

However one might accurately condemn the former SA Apartide Government, and it’s less than stellar human rights record, nothing can compare to the current government’s legalization of direct, race based genicide openly touted, and systematically implemented. That genocidal managerie of black racist murderers, otherwise known as the ANC, GAINED ITS POWER to foment this genocide via international sanctions which crippled the Apartide Government, forcing it to relinquish control to the ANC. So this bad baby is a product of international intercourse, and therefore, must be owned and disciplined and made to behave itself by its creators.

The absurd notion that intervention in this situation would require an “asinine war of choice” is an extreme over-estimate of SA military capability, of which it can barely police or feed itself, let alone wage war with anyone other than the greatly outnumbered white civilian farmers they are massacring.

This evil monstrosity could be removed from power, and brought before an international tribunal, and dealt with accordingly, faster than you could build a new McDonalds. All that is necessary is for the leftist do-Gooders of the world to extend their high and mighty form of morality to everyone, and not just brown people.
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:40 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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So there is sympathy for the white farmers, whose ancestors STOLE land and created a violent racially oppressive society, but none for the ancestors of farmers who had their land and rights taken from them? I swear, white people are the most entitled snowflakes on the entire planet.
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:45 AM
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Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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So there is sympathy for the white farmers, whose ancestors STOLE land and created a violent racially oppressive society, but none for the ancestors of farmers who had their land and rights taken from them? I swear, white people are the most entitled snowflakes on the entire planet.
There is no sympathy for anything. The concern is over:

1) Threats by political leaders coupled with on-going attacks on white farmers with the willful blindness of the government or even its tacit approval; and
2) Absolute revulsion to the notion of expropriation WITHOUT COMPENSATION!
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