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Old 03-07-2018, 04:52 AM
 
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The AR-15 assault rifle was banned in California in 1989.
IMPOSSIBLE.

The AR 15 is NOT an "assault rifle".
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Old 03-07-2018, 04:56 AM
 
Location: USA
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For the record,
REMEMBER THE 1994 ASSAULT WEAPON BAN?
• Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (AKs) (all models)
• Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil
• Beretta AR-70 (SC-70)
• Colt AR-15
• Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN-LAR, FNC
• SWD (MAC type) M-10, M-11, M11/9, M12
• Steyr AUG
• INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22
• Revolving cylinder shotguns such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12
[The prohibitions expired on September 13, 2004.]

Of course, prior to the ban, how many mass shootings were attributed to any of the above "assault weapons"?
[crickets chirping]

Just keep on demanding that incompetent government "DO SOMETHING" and you will get your wish.
Amazing that someone else actually understands this.
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Old 03-07-2018, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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For the record,
REMEMBER THE 1994 ASSAULT WEAPON BAN?
• Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (AKs) (all models)
• Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil
• Beretta AR-70 (SC-70)
• Colt AR-15
• Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN-LAR, FNC
• SWD (MAC type) M-10, M-11, M11/9, M12
• Steyr AUG
• INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22
• Revolving cylinder shotguns such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12
[The prohibitions expired on September 13, 2004.]

Of course, prior to the ban, how many mass shootings were attributed to any of the above "assault weapons"?

[crickets chirping]

Just keep on demanding that incompetent government "DO SOMETHING" and you will get your wish.
Not a lot of mass shootings prior to 1994

How many of the mass shootings of the past 15 years can be attributed to any of the weapons you listed?
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Old 03-07-2018, 07:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not a lot of mass shootings prior to 1994

How many of the mass shootings of the past 15 years can be attributed to any of the weapons you listed?
AR-15 is on that list, as were most AKs.


But, that's the point. Bans do nothing. I bought a rebadged HK91 during that ban, that's just one example.

Does it sink in yet?
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Old 03-07-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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Gun control works. If it didn’t work, the Vegas shooter and the Florida school shooter would have used fully-automatic weapons and killed far more people. The one-time mass shooters are clearly using the most lethal weapons they can get without too much friction. Fully-automatic weapons are expensive, less available, and can create a paper trail with purchase. That’s evidently enough friction to make them not the weapon of choice. Therefore, the existing gun controls on fully-automatic weapons seem to work.

Professional criminals can always get weapons. But they are not the topic of most gun control conversations for that very reason.

I think they are jumping to conclusions here, who knows why they chose the weapons they carried out the attacks with, only they know the answer to that.

Im not sure why so many people still think full autos are so crazy expensive just because they have strict laws on the books regulating them. There are very tough laws on heroin too, but numerous states are in the midst of major heroin epidemics, so that logic is not always correct.

The AK47 is the most MASS PRODUCED assault weapon on the planet, NO ONE is paying $20K for something that is so mass produced and so widely used!
You can’t buy a LEGAL transferable AK-47 or M-16 for even $20K! You obviously know nothing about what you’re talking about!

https://dealernfa.com/product-catego...-machine-guns/
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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You can’t buy a LEGAL transferable AK-47 or M-16 for even $20K! You obviously know nothing about what you’re talking about!

https://dealernfa.com/product-catego...-machine-guns/
Whats your point then? I never mentioned legally buying one.

Besides that, the law you refer to, seems a lot like infringement to me, these are fairly common guns used today, by many of the worlds militaries and police.

You cant buy heroin legally either, but at the same time, numerous cities and states have major heroin epidemics going on....point being, even though its illegal and very tough laws against it, there is PLENTY here and more coming in all the time.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:23 AM
 
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Not a lot of mass shootings prior to 1994

How many of the mass shootings of the past 15 years can be attributed to any of the weapons you listed?

Yes, not many mass shootings prior to the ban, when all those firearms WHERE available.


Here is a good read. It was just a matter of a few cosmetic things and an AR was available all during the ban.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9595a74a46be
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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STOP STOP STOP calling everything assault rifles.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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Another odd thing. I was born in KS. I clearly remember seeing pick trucks driving around everywhere with gun racks in the back window with guns in them. Even at the high school. Imagine that.....people actually brought guns to school...yet there were no school shootings, at least not at the rate we have now.
AR's were available back then. They just weren't in every movie, video game , or hip hop video. They were glorified as "assault weapons of war" all over social media.


Again, this points to society , not the tools available to us.
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Old 03-07-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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Another odd thing. I was born in KS. I clearly remember seeing pick trucks driving around everywhere with gun racks in the back window with guns in them. Even at the high school. Imagine that.....people actually brought guns to school...yet there were no school shootings, at least not at the rate we have now.
AR's were available back then. They just weren't in every movie, video game , or hip hop video. They were glorified as "assault weapons of war" all over social media.


Again, this points to society , not the tools available to us.
Yep, things were actually safer BEFORE we went crazy with all the safety and security measures! Go figure!
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