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Old 03-09-2018, 08:05 PM
 
Location: PSL
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BTW the loophole is, unless your parents or legal guardian gifted you the weapon...
In which case the parents would be assuming responsibility for a young adults actions.

Quick question for all you mom's demanding action.
Are you OK with being responsible for your kids actions until they're 21?

I say if we're going to infringe on the rights of all 18-21 to be really fair, no more eligibility for private loans for college until 21.
No eligibility for military service until 21.
No voting rights until 21.
And you assume financial, and criminal responsibility on your kid until they're 21.

Be very careful for what tone you seek to establish regarding the 2nd, it is a civil right to keep and bear arms. We can apply your nonsensical laws elsewhere in the constitution.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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While they're at it... maybe they should also ban drugs like cocaine, heroin and the like?

Seems like a good idea no?

Am I right?

I mean... ban should mean you can't get any there shouldn't be any drug users or sellers.

Would be awesome if we could have a war on drugs too!!
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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BTW the loophole is, unless your parents or legal guardian gifted you the weapon...
In which case the parents would be assuming responsibility for a young adults actions.

Quick question for all you mom's demanding action.
Are you OK with being responsible for your kids actions until they're 21?

I say if we're going to infringe on the rights of all 18-21 to be really fair, no more eligibility for private loans for college until 21.
No eligibility for military service until 21.
No voting rights until 21.
And you assume financial, and criminal responsibility on your kid until they're 21.

Be very careful for what tone you seek to establish regarding the 2nd, it is a civil right to keep and bear arms. We can apply your nonsensical laws elsewhere in the constitution.


No one wants to take your guns away....but there needs to be restrictions in this day and age. And why do you think it's just mom's who want this?
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:29 PM
 
Location: PSL
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No one wants to take your guns away....but there needs to be restrictions in this day and age. And why do you think it's just mom's who want this?


We keep hearing that drivel but actions speak louder than words. If that were true why is it a felony of the 3rd degree right now to be 18-20 in possesion of a firearm?

That is taking guns away.
It is preventing the legal purchase and private manufacture of firearms, being in possesion of said firearms, unless proof it was gifted, of those 18-21.
Beings it is illegal in this state to create a list record or registry of firearms and their owners, they can't really offer an amnesty like NY had to when they turned everyone in the state into a felon via SAFEACT if their weapon could carry more than 7 rounds in factory configuration.

Why do I think only mom's want this?
Who tends to be illogical and emotional driven beings?
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:38 PM
 
Location: PSL
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The only restriction there needs to be in this day and age, is restricting Motive, Incentive, and Intent.

Not conflation, false equivalencies, nor emotional knee jerk responses.

Can start by removing motive, by attacking freedom of the press in how they irresponsibly publish the tactics and weapons used by scumbag school shooters. It serves as a study guide for a sick degenerate form of achieving some score or count.
At least that's what the Lanza scumbag had confessed to... studying and idolizing columbine.

Can start by removing incentive. Allow school faculty to be armed, and take the training required to thwart an active shooter.
No more gun free zones.

Can start by removing intent.
Make a credible threat of violence, you get locked up.
Failure to apprehend or investigate the dirtbag, should result in the agency being responsible for their ineptitude to act in preventing a potential hostile dirtbag.

To falsely equate, to assume, to conflate law abiding peaceable citizens with heinous scumbags is mental midget Olympics of the highest degree...
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Oh Lord. What about states' rights that the GOP is always yelling about.
The 10th amendment (states authority), has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment(an individuals right).

Read the 10th amendment slowly. You will get it, I think? I may be wrong.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:43 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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But if NRA loving mom and dad want to get their first grader a gun and the constitution doesn't say no, is that the next battle for gun worshipping moms and dad's? Why not add that to the Florida lawsuit?
It is not up to you to raise their kids for them, how you think.
I had my .410 in first grade and took it to show & tell in 2nd grade.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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The only restriction there needs to be in this day and age, is restricting Motive, Incentive, and Intent.

Not conflation, false equivalencies, nor emotional knee jerk responses.

Can start by removing motive, by attacking freedom of the press in how they irresponsibly publish the tactics and weapons used by scumbag school shooters. It serves as a study guide for a sick degenerate form of achieving some score or count.
At least that's what the Lanza scumbag had confessed to... studying and idolizing columbine.

Can start by removing incentive. Allow school faculty to be armed, and take the training required to thwart an active shooter.
No more gun free zones.

Can start by removing intent.
Make a credible threat of violence, you get locked up.
Failure to apprehend or investigate the dirtbag, should result in the agency being responsible for their ineptitude to act in preventing a potential hostile dirtbag.

To falsely equate, to assume, to conflate law abiding peaceable citizens with heinous scumbags is mental midget Olympics of the highest degree...
Schools are there to teach, nothing else. Something is wrong with our society if we need to arm our schools.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The only reason the NRA is suing is because they are scared of losing their power.....and they won't win. You know, people are tired of schools, businesses and venues being shot up by people with arms superior to our police force. Florida is the first state to take a stand. More states will follow.
Losing power?

Losing the Constitution, without amendment.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So the NRA is suing for Nikolas Cruz to have a gun.
That guy is incarcerated, where you actually lose your rights.
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