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Old 03-09-2018, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Or maybe $98 billion. And partial service has been delayed to 2029.

Rail is a 20th century solution. But lots of crony capitalists will make billions of of this boondoggle. My guess is that this rail project will NEVER be completed.
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The California bullet train project took a sharp jump in price Friday when the state rail authority announced the cost of connecting Los Angeles to San Francisco would total $77.3 billion, an increase of $13 billion from estimates two years ago, and could potentially rise as high as $98.1 billion.

The rail authority also said that the earliest trains could operate on a partial system between San Jose and the farming town of Wasco would be 2029, five years later than the previous projection. The disclosures are contained in a 114-page business plan that was issued in draft form by the rail authority and will be finalized this summer in a submission to the Legislature.

Cost for California bullet train system rises to $77.3 billion

. Proving that with government work you can have it neither cheap nor fast, the earliest any major part of the system might be fully operational is now 2029, not 2024, with the major San Francisco to Anaheim line not on target til 2033.

http://reason.com/blog/2018/03/09/ca...w-5-years-late

 
Old 03-09-2018, 08:24 PM
 
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This Browndoggle will probably be abandoned once the brain addled dotard Jerry Brown is out of office.
 
Old 03-09-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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It’s just money right ? Just raise taxes . Isn’t that the liberal way .
 
Old 03-09-2018, 09:02 PM
 
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Conservatives have a really weird hangup about trains. They love cars, trucks and airplanes -- but hate train travel. It's very, very odd.
 
Old 03-09-2018, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Conservatives have a really weird hangup about trains. They love cars, trucks and airplanes -- but hate train travel. It's very, very odd.
Liberals love trains. Someone tells them when to get on, when they'll get somewhere, where they can get off, and someone else paying most of the fare. They don't have to think for themselves because government will do it for them.
 
Old 03-09-2018, 09:10 PM
 
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Conservatives have a really weird hangup about trains. They love cars, trucks and airplanes -- but hate train travel. It's very, very odd.
Leftists have a really weird hangup about cars. They love bicycles -- but hate auto travel. It's very, very odd.

In Pasadena people are fighting the Road Diet where cyclists want to remove lanes from cars on the already clogged roads so cyclists can use them.
 
Old 03-09-2018, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Rail is a 20th century solution.
I can't speak about California, but rail can be part of a 21st century solution. Leaving it up to the highways isn't working too well either. Look at Brightline in Florida and many succesful light rail and trolley solutions in some major cities.
 
Old 03-09-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What is the cost of doing nothing and continuing to avoid mass transit. I’m not saying the cost is reasonable but to continue to do nothing in California and other states is complete madness. Compared to transportation in Europe we are the equivalent of cave men.

We need to get people out of cars where it makes sense, there are so many congested areas around the country, our attitude needs to change.
 
Old 03-09-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Liberals love trains. Someone tells them when to get on, when they'll get somewhere, where they can get off, and someone else paying most of the fare. They don't have to think for themselves because government will do it for them.
I take it you don’t commute in major metropolitan area.
 
Old 03-09-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Leftists have a really weird hangup about cars. They love bicycles -- but hate auto travel. It's very, very odd.

In Pasadena people are fighting the Road Diet where cyclists want to remove lanes from cars on the already clogged roads so cyclists can use them.
In L.A too . One of the councilmen is a big biking enthusiast.

He almost got recalled for his idiocy.

The people running this city lack common sense .

Critics frustrated by 'road diets' launch effort to recall L.A. Councilman Mike Bonin
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