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Old 03-11-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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All you people who know better than anybody else need to read about her talk to the American Indian congress, read up on DNA, the difference between having a little blood and being part of a tribe.

Elizabeth Warren did not receive any benefit from her claim to have an Indian ancestor. Look it up.

If your wantta get pissed off, at least make it over something of consequence. Try not to come off like a contemporary American non thinker.
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Old 03-11-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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All you people who know better than anybody else need to read about her talk to the American Indian congress, read up on DNA, the difference between having a little blood and being part of a tribe.
Completely false. Both Penn and Harvard have publications referring to her as a "minority faculty award winner" and "first law faculty woman of color," respectively.

Warren most definitely DID play the "minority" card to get those two jobs, and the universities publicized that fact.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Pocohontas got two Ivy League professorships claiming minority status.
Pretty smart. I kind of wish ole Pocahontas would have run, would be good fun to see Trump offering her a peace pipe during a debate.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:19 PM
 
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Completely false. Both Penn and Harvard have publications referring to her as a "minority faculty award winner" and "first law faculty woman of color," respectively.

Warren most definitely DID play the "minority" card to get those two jobs, and the universities publicized that fact.

The Harvard employees who hired her said that was not true.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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This is getting old, been discussed ad nauseam for 10 years, came up with Scott Brown and never went away. There are around 100 threads on this in the last few years, anything new?


Two things, she never benefitted from her status and she doesn't need to submit to any test. This is what passes as intelligent discourse from those who cant criticize her policies and qualifications. Digress to the basics when you have nothing else.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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Completely false. Both Penn and Harvard have publications referring to her as a "minority faculty award winner" and "first law faculty woman of color," respectively.

Warren most definitely DID play the "minority" card to get those two jobs, and the universities publicized that fact.
She appeared in a publication as a minority, now that's important.


No she didn't apply as a minority to Harvard or anywhere else, if you disagree then take it up with the selection committee at Harvard.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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The Harvard employees who hired her said that was not true.
question is do you believe them?
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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Elizabeth Warren spoke to the National Congress of American Indians in February.

They were satisfied with what she had to say.

That's good enough for me.
That does not constitute physical evidence.

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You people need advice from the Genealogy Forum who have done their DNA. Genetics 101. Elizabeth Warren is Female meaning that she only has XX Chromosomes. Unless she had female ancestors who were Natives, her DNA would not show Native Ancestors. Women do not get their Father's Y chromosome DNA; only their X Female Ancestors. Can she still have Native Ancestors? Of course, but it would not show up in a woman's DNA from a male line.

My daughter had her DNA done. Her Maternal Great-Grandpa was British. Her chart showed 0% British. Her Paternal Great-Grandpa was German. Again, 0% German. Her DNA was a who's who of every female ancestor she had.
Um, no, that's not how it works. You've probably confused an mtDNA test with a standard autosomal DNA test.

An autosomal DNA test like Ancestry does contains both maternal and paternal information.

Also, your daughter and you clearly don't understand how to read DNA ethnicity reports. Regions are generally used instead of specific countries, due to human migration patterns. Although born in the US, my mother is Romanian since her mother and father immigrated to the US from Romania, but the ethnicity report shows Eastern European, rather than the specific country of Romania. My paternal origins correctly show Ireland/Scotland/Wales, instead of specifically Ireland. DNA testing sites clearly explain how to read ethnicity reports, but most people ignore them.

Also, many people are grossly misinformed about their real origins, which is something that has to be taken into consideration.
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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The Harvard employees who hired her said that was not true.
They lied, long after the fact, because it looked bad.

In the meantime, here's what the Crimson had to say about it when it actually happened:
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"Of 71 current Law School professors and assistant professors, 11 are women, five are black, one is Native American and one is Hispanic, said Mike Chmura, spokesperson for the Law School.

Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American."
Survey: Diversity Lacking At HLS | News | The Harvard Crimson - October 22, 1996
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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She appeared in a publication as a minority, now that's important.


No she didn't apply as a minority to Harvard or anywhere else, if you disagree then take it up with the selection committee at Harvard.
Intetesting... I just posted a quote directly from a 1996 issue of the Harvard Crimson that explicitly refers to Warren as "Native American."

How would Harvard know that unless she was specifically listed as "Native American" in her faculty file?
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