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View Poll Results: Should we allow Asian Carp to stay/enter Great Lakes Watershed?
Yes, it is tolerant to do so. 4 14.29%
No, my prejudice gets the better of me. 24 85.71%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-12-2018, 02:02 AM
 
Location: NNV
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You racist!!! You only prefer whitefish???
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:11 AM
 
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You racist!!! You only prefer whitefish???
No, I'm an equal opportunity eater.
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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What nonsense, speaking in favor of this ravaging, invasive species. What's next, a support plea for fire ants or killer bees?
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:56 AM
 
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What nonsense, speaking in favor of this ravaging, invasive species. What's next, a support plea for fire ants or killer bees?
The Salmon were once an immigrant fish or "invasive species" (if you want to use your offensive terms) that crowded out the Native American fish. Why shouldn't the Asian Carp be afforded the same opportunities as other fish in the Great Lakes, which has always been a body of water of immigrants?
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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You are using this example to make your point about immigration?

Perhaps you missed school the day they taught that all human beings are members of the same species.
I don't understand your point.

Asian Carp are closely related to some American Carp and can cross breed.

They do the work that American Carp won't do, eating certain pollutants.

Why do you support laws of hatred that try to block, remove, or kill Asian Carp?
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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They're discriminated against in college admissions, too.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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How does it taste on the frying pan, that Asian carp?

Not bad actually for a bottom feeder.
Better for making gumbo.

We use to keep them and give them to those on hard times. I know 40 years ago, if there was a Black family fishing, you could walk down the bank and offer it to them and they would take it with a smile and a huge thank you.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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What nonsense, speaking in favor of this ravaging, invasive species. What's next, a support plea for fire ants or killer bees?
Thing is, the OP is right you know. The Dems have been doing the same things for decades. And these Asian Carp are far less damaging than other foreign invaders.
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not bad actually for a bottom feeder.
Better for making gumbo.

We use to keep them and give them to those on hard times. I know 40 years ago, if there was a Black family fishing, you could walk down the bank and offer it to them and they would take it with a smile and a huge thank you.
Those were probably common carp? This new one is a crazy jumper. As far as eating, better than common.
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Many states have made laws against the Asian Carp, therefore Time magazine even calls them "illegal immigrants" instead of "undocumented residents."

When you look at the prejudice against the Asian Carp they often focus on how it will hurt the ecology of the Great Lakes. However, the Great Lakes have always been a place of immigration and that has been the foundation of strength.

People say that the Asian Carp could compete with other fish species like Salmon for limited resources. However, the Salmon themselves were once an immigrant fish, first introduced in the 1870s, they died out and then were reintroduced in the 1960s to balance out a different immigrant fish, the Alewife. Why can't the Salmon share the Great Lakes' vast wealth and opportunities with these less fortunate and maligned Asian Carp?

Others complain that it could hurt the tourism fishing industry, but why can't people just choose to fish and eat the Asian Carp? Taste is largely subjective.

Some bigots say that Asian Carp have a "culture of jumping" that can be dangerous for people enjoying the water. However, this ignores that many Asian Carp don't jump or don't always jump, it is not an aggressive attack, but rather a misunderstood defense mechanism.

Native Pike have sharp teeth that have been used to give humans cuts or attack other native fish. Furthermore, you can't judge a culture. Yet, you don't hear people discussing removing Pike from the Great Lakes watershed area.

These are good fish eating up various pollutants that other Native Fish won't. They are essentially doing the work that native fish won't do, which is why they first migrated to North America to begin with.

Politicians pandering to backwards Neanderthal voters spent millions to put up various walls, dams, and electric fences, but the Asian Carp have continued their march toward the Great Lakes.

Why are we giving the Asian Carp such a hard time? Why are they killed and removed when found in the Great Lakes watershed. Do you think that they chose to break the laws or did their parents spawn them there through no fault of their own?

Prejudice?
"They" thought Kudzu was good for soil erosion also. In many places it has strangled out the native species. You cant eat it, nothing, except may a goat, will eat it. "They" have been spending mucho $$$ trying to keep it under control.


The zebra mussel is out-competing native species and driving endangered species to the brink of extinction. Like the Asian carp they decrease native game fish populations affecting revenues of recreational fishing. They accumulate toxins in their tissue which is eaten by predators and passed up the food chain to humans. They also cause damage to structures, inflows, etc. costing mucho$$$$.


The Starling. Burmese pythons. Adelges tsugae. All cause damage to existing habitat, ecosystems, native species causing hundreds of thousands of dollars yearly.


So you are saying so what? We should turn a blind eye, enable, encourage illegal invasive organism to come in, destroy our habitat, our infrastructure, our economy and strangle out the legal endemic organisms.
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