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Hang on National Action supported the killing of MP Jo Cox and stated Hitler didn't go far enough with his plans, is that not Uktra Right Wing.
Even if they were it still doesn't change the fact that ANYONE can be labeled 'right wing' or 'far right' simply because their views are different than other people's 'more acceptable' views. And please explain to me why extremist Muslims are allowed into the UK then if its their contention that they're protecting the public from people with extremist views?
Also here is Southern's account of what happened to her while she was detained:
Whether or not you agree with Southern's views and beliefs, you can't POSSIBLY tell me that this isn't messed up and that it SHOULD NOT be happening in western countries to people who simply have different political views, especially when she has had no prior criminal past and especially no terror related past compared to the hundreds of Muslims who went to fight with ISIS and then were allowed to return to the UK.
Even if they were it still doesn't change the fact that ANYONE can be labeled 'right wing' or 'far right' simply because their views are different than other people's 'more acceptable' views. And please explain to me why extremist Muslims are allowed into the UK then if its their contention that they're protecting the public from people with extremist views?
Whether or not you agree with Southern's views and beliefs, you can't POSSIBLY tell me that this isn't messed up and that it SHOULD NOT be happening in western countries to people who simply have different political views, especially when she has had no prior criminal past and especially no terror related past compared to the hundreds of Muslims who went to fight with ISIS and then were allowed to return to the UK.
I didn't watch the ITV documentary about the Far Right which mentioned Sellner, however a Schedule 7 is usually the reserve of Special Branch/Counter Terrorism and MI5 (Security Service Officers) who are based at Ports and Airports, and is usually intelligence based. Schedule 7 is used in relation to any terrorist intelligence and not just in relation to the Far Right.
Furthermore she was allowed in to the country until recently, indeed all three have entered the UK in the last 12 months, however it seems that intelligence in relation to these three individuals and their intentions has changed leading the police and security services to deny them entry and deem the,m not coducive to the public good and a threat.
As of June 2016, the US Terrorist Watch List was estimated to contain over 2,484,442 records, consisting of 1,877,133 individual identities. So the US is just as strict in relation to terrorism legislation and entry policy, if not stricter as you now facew problems just because of your nationality never ind your views.
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Not just them, Canadian journalist Laura Southern too: link
UK Authorities admitted they were not terrorist, but they were going to be held under the no due process statutes the terrorist laws allow.
Abuse of the laws.... Tyranny.
I didn't watch the ITV documentary about the Far Right which mentioned Sellner, however a Schedule 7 is usually the reserve of Special Branch/Counter Terrorism and MI5 (Security Service Officers) who are based at Ports and Airports, and is usually intelligence based. Schedule 7 is used in relation to any terrorist intelligence and not just in relation to the Far Right.
Furthermore she was allowed in to the country until recently, indeed all three have entered the UK in the last 12 months, however it seems that intelligence in relation to these three individuals and their intentions has changed leading the police and security services to deny them entry and deem the,m not coducive to the public good and a threat.
As of June 2016, the US Terrorist Watch List was estimated to contain over 2,484,442 records, consisting of 1,877,133 individual identities. So the US is just as strict in relation to terrorism legislation and entry policy, if not stricter as you now facew problems just because of your nationality never ind your views.
It is the most abused piece of tyrannical legislation used in the free world.
No due process what so ever.
Sound familiar?
Oppressing free people is not wise.
Oppressing armed free people is stupid.
Let me ask you:
Do you think these people were detained simply because they were off to give a speech, or could it be because one of them is a known far right activist, and the other one was going to interview a far right activist?
If the UK deems a person or persons of a different nationality as a national security risk, or part of a hate group, should they have the right to detain them or not?
Political views are no reason to be punished, in a free thinking nation that created free speech.
Good thing they disarmed the public, before going full bore tyrannical.
It is the most abused piece of tyrannical legislation used in the free world.
No due process what so ever.
Sound familiar?
Oppressing free people is not wise.
Oppressing armed free people is stupid.
Nobody needs due process to be denied entry in to the US or indeed most other countries, it's not unique to the UK.
Specific details were not released by the Home Office, and I have no idea what intelligence or reasoning led to the decision.
They had been allowed in the UK prior to this and had all visited before, however I know recently Sellner and his group rented a boat to stop aid agencies helping to rescue migrants in the Mediterranean however the boat eventually broke down and they had to be rescued after they wqere banned from refuelling in Malta.
As for Lauren Southern ws supposedly giving out leaflets Allah being gay, which could be deemed offensive and harassment under the law.
I know Sellner's girlfriend Brittany Pettibone visted with him last year when he made a number of speeches at various locations, again I don't know what was said or what has inflamed the situation with the UK Authorities, or indeed what intelligence has led to all three being banned.
The event they were due to attend and which Sellner was going to give a speech at had been cancelled and he was due to give an imprompu speech in public in London at Hyde Park, which may have contravened Part 2 of the Public Order Act 1986 in relation to Processions and Assemblies as well as Parts 3 and 3A - Racial and Religious Hatred.
I think it was a bit harsh in banning them without a good reason, however I don't know what groups they have links to, what exactly has been said or written or any other such information.
Nobody needs due process to be denied entry in to the US or indeed most other countries, it's not unique to the UK.
Specific details were not released by the Home Office, and I have no idea what intelligence or reasoning led to the decision.
They had been allowed in the UK prior to this and had all visited before, however I know recently Sellner and his group rented a boat to stop aid agencies helping to rescue migrants in the Med, whilst Southern was made posters about Allah being gay, which if she put through peoples doors would be deemed harassment.
I know Sellner's girlfriend Brittany Pettibone visted with him last year when he made a number of speeches at various locations, again I don't know what was said or what has inflamed the situation with the UK Authorities, or indeed what intelligence has led to all three being banned.
The event they were due to attend and which Sellner was going to give a speech at had been cancelled and he was due to give an imprompu speech in public in London, which may have contravened Part 2 of the Public Order Act 1986 in relation to Processions and Assemblies as well as Parts 3 and 3A - Racial and Religious Hatred.
Is he charged of a crime?
But to be told you are not terrorist, but will be held on the provisions of a Terrorist legislation?
For 3 days. Not turned around and placed upon another plane, they said they would gladly pay for. Held 3 days, to intimidate them for their political views of individual liberty and freedom.
This Sunday, 8am EDT 3pm London time, Speakers Square - London England, is going to be lit up with truth bombs! We shall overcome! Riots soon to ensue.
Provide some evidence that these people are part of some hate group.
Leaning to the right doesn't make someone part of a hate group.
Sellner was there to speak at an internationally renown free speech conference.
Brittany Pettibone was there to conduct an interview.
Does a CNN reporter interviewing a member of ANTIFA make them part of a terrorist group?
Lastly, if the UK is going to deny them entry, that's bad enough, but to detain them for 3 days is inexcusable.
There's a difference between 'leaning to the right' and founding your own far-right organisation.
By the way I never said they were hate groups, I simply asked you to answer the question "If the UK deems a person or persons of a different nationality as a national security risk, or part of a hate group, should they have the right to detain them or not?", which you didn't answer by the way.
It's funny how the right are constantly up in arms about immigration and who should be let into America, but when the UK chooses to detain two people who "it might be considered that his or her presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good" that's apparently different.
The UK makes it's own decisions about who it chooses to let in or detain.
Let me ask you:
Do you think these people were detained simply because they were off to give a speech, or could it be because one of them is a known far right activist, and the other one was going to interview a far right activist?
If the UK deems a person or persons of a different nationality as a national security risk, or part of a hate group, should they have the right to detain them or not?
Anyone who is critical of the ideology of Islam is considered a hate group these days, including Muslims wanting reform. It’s ridiculous.
Even more ridiculous that they let 400 returning ISIS members come back and gave them public housing and welfare. That’s going to end well.
Their country, their rules. Visiting a foreign country is a privilege, not a right.
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