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Old 03-16-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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I thought e-verify was a federal mandate. Shouldn't it be?
It is not federally mandated and never has been. It's an optional program unless state or local law requires the use of e-verify. Should it be? Yes, I think it should. Legislative efforts to make it mandatory have been stymied by a wide variety of special interests:

When Colorado tried to pass mandatory e-verify lobbyists killed it, here is a list:

There were no organized groups lobbying in support of HB16-1202. Several lobbying groups opposed the measure including:
The Colorado Competitive Council, which lobbies on behalf of Chamber of Commerce's.
Colorado Oil and Gas Association
Colorado Health Partners
Colorado Restaurant Association
Colorado Farm Bureau
Jefferson County Businesses Lobby
Colorado Association of the YMCA
Farmers Insurance
Various energy and mining interests.


News: Colorado House kills E-Verify bill | CAIRCO immigration reform
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Old 03-16-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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And they put more Americans in danger by refusing to do so .
By refusing to do what?
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Old 03-16-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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This can't be legal. Since when can non-citizens be appointed to government offices where they have authority over citizens?
She will serve on an advisory committee, the committee does not have authority over anyone:

"Lizbeth Mateo, a 33-year-old attorney and immigrant rights activist, will serve on the California Student Opportunity and Access Program Project Grant Advisory Committee. The committee advises the California Student Aid Commission on efforts to increase college access for California students from low-income or underserved communities."
CA Senate names undocumented immigrant to financial aid post | The Sacramento Bee
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Old 03-16-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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States are not required to enforce federal law. State and local law enforcement are not authorized to investigate or detain people for immigration violations. The only exception is if the local agency enters into a 287g agreement. https://www.ice.gov/287g
No where did I state that, I responded to the poster stating about a tyrannical government, and I asked how is enforcing a law being tyrannical? Especially in regards to people who are not even suppose to reside in the country?


And while you are correct, local, state, and federal officials often, hell all of the time, cooperate on everything else. As a former LEO, the feds were often contacted and investigations turned over when violations of federal law occurred, like discovering bomb making material during an unrelated arrest, discovering top secret material during car search, etc. Illegal immigrants though for some reason in a few places are "off limits" when it comes to cooperating with the federal government, though they will cooperate on every thing else.


Hell, how many times has it been that local law enforcement has arrested someone with a federal warrant? All of the time yet that warrant has nothing to do with local laws. How many times has local law enforcement cooperated with entities like the Marshal Service on an arrest? All of the time it happens, even allowing the Marshals to use local facilities. Yet illegal immigrants? Oh yea, zero cooperation on that because you know "we are local, we do not assist in enforcing federal laws (except for when it comes to everything else, we actually do)".
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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No where did I state that, I responded to the poster stating about a tyrannical government, and I asked how is enforcing a law being tyrannical? Especially in regards to people who are not even suppose to reside in the country?


And while you are correct, local, state, and federal officials often, hell all of the time, cooperate on everything else. As a former LEO, the feds were often contacted and investigations turned over when violations of federal law occurred, like discovering bomb making material during an unrelated arrest, discovering top secret material during car search, etc. Illegal immigrants though for some reason in a few places are "off limits" when it comes to cooperating with the federal government, though they will cooperate on every thing else.


Hell, how many times has it been that local law enforcement has arrested someone with a federal warrant? All of the time yet that warrant has nothing to do with local laws. How many times has local law enforcement cooperated with entities like the Marshal Service on an arrest? All of the time it happens, even allowing the Marshals to use local facilities. Yet illegal immigrants? Oh yea, zero cooperation on that because you know "we are local, we do not assist in enforcing federal laws (except for when it comes to everything else, we actually do)".

Good post. Don't hold your breath for a viable answer from any lefties or ethnocentrics in here though.
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Old 03-16-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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No where did I state that, I responded to the poster stating about a tyrannical government, and I asked how is enforcing a law being tyrannical? Especially in regards to people who are not even suppose to reside in the country?


And while you are correct, local, state, and federal officials often, hell all of the time, cooperate on everything else. As a former LEO, the feds were often contacted and investigations turned over when violations of federal law occurred, like discovering bomb making material during an unrelated arrest, discovering top secret material during car search, etc. Illegal immigrants though for some reason in a few places are "off limits" when it comes to cooperating with the federal government, though they will cooperate on every thing else.


Hell, how many times has it been that local law enforcement has arrested someone with a federal warrant? All of the time yet that warrant has nothing to do with local laws. How many times has local law enforcement cooperated with entities like the Marshal Service on an arrest? All of the time it happens, even allowing the Marshals to use local facilities. Yet illegal immigrants? Oh yea, zero cooperation on that because you know "we are local, we do not assist in enforcing federal laws (except for when it comes to everything else, we actually do)".
Could you be more specific on exactly how local law enforcement agencies are 'refusing to cooperate'? If you are talking about jails not honoring ICE detainers, that is complicated by the decisions of several federal courts that have ruled that they do not satisfy the requirements of the 4th amendment, here's a California case from February of this year:

https://www.aclusocal.org/sites/defa...er_re_msjs.pdf
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