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Old 03-18-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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We all know what went down here had nothing to do with the FBI deciding to fire McCabe.

Trump is trying to protect himself from obstruction of justice, but instead has added a strong piece of evidence to the case against him.

Tillerson was right.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: FL
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Except that McCabe was removed from the FBI by Director Wray 3 months ago because of what was found by the IG.

This narrative that this was all sudden, and the normal protocol was not followed is completely false.

More desperation from the corrupt people in the DOJ/FBI as they are exposed, and removed.

It's funny how Michael Bromwich was supportive of the IG investigation, that is until McCabe paid him to attack it.
Link?
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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We all know what went down here had nothing to do with the FBI deciding to fire McCabe.
Why do you believe Sessions shouldn't have fired him after the FBI itself recommended he be fired?
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Wrong on all counts. Sessions fired McCabe due to the FBI's internal review and recommendation for immediate dismissal. Nothing to do with Trump. Nothing to do with Sessions travelling or his reading of the IG report. Very simple. The IG is required by law to report anything he considers criminal to the head of the FBI as he's investigating it. He can not wait for the final report to come out. The FBI did an internal review of McCabe's actions and recommended immediate dismissal.
Right. Trump had nothing to do with the firing, either, except for the tweets afterward crowing about it.


Right.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: United States
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The ethics committee recommended firing, Sessions decided the timing.
The Office of Professional Responsibility recently finished it's investigation of McCabe, Sessions acted after McCabe was given a chance to review the OPR decision.

It's as simple as that.


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He probably has a very strong case under the Merit System Protection Board. If he and his attorney(s) can show negligence there, he will likely win his case and get his full pension. Additionally, lack of candor is a charge used when you can't find anything really concrete against a government employee and it's fairly subjective. It will be interesting to hear if he sues and wins.
It will be interesting to see if McCabe sues.

He could very well be facing a criminal prosecution for lying under oath...or even more criminal charges.


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McCabe will probably appeal and get his pension.
Based on what, that McCabe said he didn't do it. LoL
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:36 PM
 
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Why do you believe Sessions shouldn't have fired him after the FBI itself recommended he be fired?
I've seen no evidence that the FBI recommended he be fired.

Have you? Link please.

Typically there is a process involved in firing a civil service employee. Hearings and so forth.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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Pick one. There are plenty more sources available, if you choose to make a bit of an effort.

This is the simple search term I used. "did christopher wray remove andrew mccabe?"

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/29/polit...fbi/index.html

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Washington (CNN)FBI Director Chris Wray hinted to FBI staff in an all-employee email that a government watchdog investigation played a role in FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe's departure Monday, sources who have seen the memo told CNN.

Wray said in the message he could not comment on the coming inspector general report about the FBI's conduct during the 2016 election and defended himself as not being swayed by politics.
A source familiar with the matter told CNN that Wray had informed McCabe he is bringing in his own team, which McCabe would not be a part of, and that it was McCabe's decision whether to stay at the FBI or leave.
The coming inspector general report into the handling of the 2016 Hillary Clinton email investigation has taken on increased scrutiny as President Donald Trump and his allies have railed against FBI officials like McCabe for months over the agency's handling of sensitive political matters and what they argue is political bias.
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe 'removed' - Business Insider

https://saraacarter.com/mccabe-resig...sa-abuse-memo/

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Link?
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: United States
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I've seen no evidence that the FBI recommended he be fired.

Have you? Link please.

Typically there is a process involved in firing a civil service employee. Hearings and so forth.
Do you not know what the Office of Professional Responsibility is?

The Office of Professional Responsibility is the one that reviews these matters.

Two separate investigations concluded that McCabe lied under oath, and therefore it was recommended that he be terminated.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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Firing a person at 10pm on a Friday night after everyone has gone home is a cowardly and vindictive act.
They waited for exactly this moment so that the guy would lose his pension.
Sick.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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I've seen no evidence that the FBI recommended he be fired.
Who do you think the FBI OPR is?

Read and learn:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.105694661e9b
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