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Old 03-20-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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I believe that the import, sale and in-public possession of semi automatic weapons (including handguns) should be outlawed and that we should endeavor to remove those currently in circulation. Yes, that would include me as I have a couple Glocks. A few have spoiled it for the many as happens in so many other areas. It's unfortunate, but this is just the way it is.
"I believe that the import, sale and in-public possession of semi automatic weapons (including handguns) should be outlawed and that we should endeavor to remove those currently in circulation."

If you want that, move to another country that does NOT have 2nd amendment.

"The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED"
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:13 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Okay, I think I understand your point, but a key difference is that if someone dies because s/he texted, that is on her or him alone -- which is very different from someone shooting you and especially if was just part of a random shooting.

But to be clear, I think all the deaths due to texting are absolutely horrible, too!
Wow. No. Those who text while driving kill others, too, not just themselves. It even kills those who just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, at random, such as oncoming traffic into which a texting driver plows, head on.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Wow. No. Those who text while driving kill others, too, not just themselves. It even kills those who just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, at random, such as oncoming traffic into which a texting driver plows, head on.
Yes, you are ABSOLUTELY correct! I can't believe I was so stupid as to overlook the obvious! I guess I was just focusing on the kids and not the texters' victims.

Thanks for pointing that out!
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I disagree, i feel it puts things in perspective. Even more, 11 deaths yearly out of 23 million children.
Again, not that really any are acceptable, but we have to be realistic.
The poster said 11 deaths a day.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:25 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yes, you are ABSOLUTELY correct! I can't believe I was so stupid as to overlook the obvious! I guess I was just focusing on the kids and not the texters' victims.

Thanks for pointing that out!
I'm sorry that I even have to, and I know you are, too.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:27 PM
SFX
 
Location: Tennessee
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The poster said 11 deaths a day.
I was wondering about that. In my experience, it's not just the young. People looking at and using their phones (texting and whatever) is the most dangerous thing I come across every day. All the time.

It's actually deadly.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:29 PM
SFX
 
Location: Tennessee
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But about this problem of kids killing other kids ...

at school

with guns
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Yes, you are ABSOLUTELY correct! I can't believe I was so stupid as to overlook the obvious! I guess I was just focusing on the kids and not the texters' victims.

Thanks for pointing that out!
1 kid dying is too much.

But more kids die from bike accidents each year than from guns at school. Do you feel we should restrict bicycle sales?
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
I believe that the import, sale and in-public possession of semi automatic weapons (including handguns) should be outlawed and that we should endeavor to remove those currently in circulation. Yes, that would include me as I have a couple Glocks. A few have spoiled it for the many as happens in so many other areas. It's unfortunate, but this is just the way it is.
What a brilliant statement!

Since banning and criminalizing one's lawful possessions and activities because of the actions of another is indeed a form of punishment. Then by your way of thinking:
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When someone who is Irish commits a crime then anyone who is Irish should be punished.

When someone who is Italian commits a crime then anyone who is Italian should be punished.

When someone who is German commits a crime then anyone who is German should be punished.

When someone who is British commits a crime then anyone who is British should be punished.

When someone who is Hispanic commits a crime then anyone who is Hispanic should be punished.

When someone who is Black commits a crime then anyone who is Black should be punished.

When someone who is White commits a crime then anyone who is White should be punished.

When someone who is Christian commits a crime then anyone who is Christian should be punished.

When someone who is Jewish commits a crime then anyone who is Jewish should be punished.

When someone who is Muslim commits a crime then anyone who is Muslim should be punished.

When someone who is Heterosexual commits a crime then anyone who is Heterosexual should be punished.

When someone who is Bisexual commits a crime then anyone who is Bisexual should be punished.

When someone who is Homosexual commits a crime then anyone who is Homosexual should be punished.
It's unfortunate, but this is just the way it is.

But you know something? If we followed your way of thinking every God damn one of us would be in jail by now.

P.S. Yeah, I'll bet you own a coupla' Glocks.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:44 PM
 
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But about this problem of kids killing other kids ...

at school

with guns
What about this problem

in inter-cities

people killing kids

with guns?
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