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My point was they seemed to deliberately keep drawing gerrymandered districts they knew the gov was going to veto in hopes of dragging this past any chance at having the 2018 elections under fair maps. The current map is still roughly 10-8 GOP. Note the GOP advantage is simply due to the dispersed nature of the GOP.
FWIW Im against all gerrymandering, yes including IL and MD.
How would you like it if... SCOTUS decides gerrymandering is okay so CA and NY start doing it like PA does.
They already have in California. Then a couple Propositions were adopted. New York is more ambivalent.
If the legislature does NOT like the existing maps they can CHOOSE to change them or KEEP the original UNTIL NEW maps can be drawn and passed the courts muster.
Courts do NOT DRAW MAPS. It is NOT their job or responsibility.
Courts have drawn maps in multiple states when the Legislature could not agree on a map in a certain timeframe.
And, as I've mentioned before, adding insult to injury is the admission of the drawers of the districts, former Gov. O'Malley, State Senate President Miller and Speaker of the House of Delegates Busch, that the aim was to eliminate Republicans from the Congressional delegation.
It went from 4-4 in 2000 to 6-2 in 2010 to 7-1 today. It was stated at the time six years ago that if there was some way to legally eliminate the Republican in the 1st it would have been done. As it was, that seat did go Democrat for one term when long time Republican Congressman Wayne Gilchrest was defeated in the primary by current holder Andy Harris who then went on to lose a very close election to Frank Kratovil, who only served one term, losing to Harris in a rematch.
Aren't the judges themselves elected in PA? If so, I can see where they would be as biased as the politicians. Until the maps are drawn up by an independent entity there will be controversy.
Yes they are elected and the maps in PA were drawn up by a third party expert, the judges merely approved the new districts. I don't think there is any doubt that some of these districts were severely Gerrymandered and present day it can be done to perfection. This really shouldn't be a partisan issue but the GOP in PA has attempted to paint this as democratic issue.
This is where the country is now thanks to Trump, we need to analyze every court decision on the basis of party. If they are democrats they cannot be trusted, only republican courts are fair. We cant even trust justices based on their religion or heritage, judges of Mexican decent are biased.
The supreme court will be ruling on the Gerrymandering in Maryland and Wisconsin next month, I could care less what party does it, its wrong.
And, as I've mentioned before, adding insult to injury is the admission of the drawers of the districts, former Gov. O'Malley, State Senate President Miller and Speaker of the House of Delegates Busch, that the aim was to eliminate Republicans from the Congressional delegation.
It went from 4-4 in 2000 to 6-2 in 2010 to 7-1 today. It was stated at the time six years ago that if there was some way to legally eliminate the Republican in the 1st it would have been done. As it was, that seat did go Democrat for one term when long time Republican Congressman Wayne Gilchrest was defeated in the primary by current holder Andy Harris who then went on to lose a very close election to Frank Kratovil, who only served one term, losing to Harris in a rematch.
The Maryland districts are disgusting looking, but the only one that is a partisan gerrymander is the 6th. A neatly drawn map in Maryland is likely 6-2. If the map was the same as the 90's map which had the 4-4 result in 2000, it would likely be 6-2 as well.
The Maryland districts are disgusting looking, but the only one that is a partisan gerrymander is the 6th. A neatly drawn map in Maryland is likely 6-2. If the map was the same as the 90's map which had the 4-4 result in 2000, it would likely be 6-2 as well.
Actually more like 5-3. If Hoyer didn't have that big chunk of Prince George's County he wouldn't win (neither would State Senator Miller for that matter).
The GOP when it loses in the courts like to threaten the judges. Which is why once Judges are appointed for life you get honest and thought out decisions.
Both sides may like or dislike their opinions, which to me shows that it is a system which works. Voting for Supreme Court Justices is wrong and ties them to political parties.
Actually more like 5-3. If Hoyer didn't have that big chunk of Prince George's County he wouldn't win (neither would State Senator Miller for that matter).
He would have still won without Prince George's and population reasons might have had him get a smaller chunk anyway. Note, the GOP isn't even challenging the lines in the 5th
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