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Old 03-22-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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From the copious hard evidence that indicts Hillary Clinton in contrast with the paltry hard evidence that they have on Trump and in light of the Trump investigation;

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...dnc-fbi-media/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...iminal-intent/

to the fact that Obama's agents extracted more data from Facebook than Trump's did, and in light of the fact that there is no outrage and call for investigation due to Obama benefiting but there is when the conservative Trump does;

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...acebook-217665

to the fact that Obama congratulated Putin on his election but there was no outrage as there was for Trump in what is supposed to be the "mainstream" journalism of the commons;

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ory-call-2012/

to the fact that the liberal MSM outright admitted to being propaganda outlets for Hillary's election but it is Fox news being touted as the propaganda outlet;

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/u...ve-editor.html

We have an imbalance of both functional and formal freedom of political choice in this nation. When one of the only two parties in this nation is subject to a double legal and journalistic standard, we have a legitimate crisis of democracy that will ultimately endanger everyone's political freedom.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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of course, we'll also have to correct anti-liberal bias to even it all out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB0ftYjOuLM
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Denver
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How about we get rid of the 2 party system and add in a viable 3rd or 4th party so no one holds the majority?
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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How about we get rid of the 2 party system and add in a viable 3rd or 4th party so no one holds the majority?
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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How about we get rid of the 2 party system and add in a viable 3rd or 4th party so no one holds the majority?
PLEASE let this happen!
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: SC
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If there is a anti-conservative bias in the system (which I sincerely doubt) you can easily correct it by winning more elections. To do that, you need to convince more people that your position is correct; I doubt that will happen either.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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PLEASE let this happen!
Need proportional representation for it to be possible.

In a winner take all system 2 parties are inevitable as it is the only way to consolidate enough power to win.

I am 100% in favor of a proportional representation system.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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of course, we'll also have to correct anti-liberal bias to even it all out
Where does that exist?

Not in journalism.

This institution, more than any, is the most crucial nucleus for setting the tone of political freedom. If it supports a single political standard (in law enforcement, the workplace, the commons, etc) and refrains from overt and definite bias, then political freedom increases because people are more or less free to voice and vote for dissenting opinions. If it does not support or adhere to these standards, then political freedom decreases because dissenting opinions begin to be punished and otherwise dis-incentivized. The media has so much inherent power because it can influence the elections that determines who is in office. It also ahs the power to publicly shame. That power seems to be grossly outsized in what is supposed to be a democratic nation where the people, not the media, decides the politics of the nation.

Not in the federal law enforcement system, especially when it comes to elected political figures.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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If there is a anti-conservative bias in the system (which I sincerely doubt) you can easily correct it by winning more elections. To do that, you need to convince more people that your position is correct; I doubt that will happen either.
1. That there is an anti-conservative bias isn't controversial nor disputed by any serious person. See my aforementioned examples, to start.

1. A lot of people who voted for Obama voted for Trump in the past election. That means that people are convinced that our position is correct all of the time.

2. You prove my point. We did recently win the most important election in the world. Regardless, the unelected nationals security apparatus, enabled by the "mainstream" (Leftist) media, have made it a point to functionally undermine this president's first term. That's not a democratic act.

When the system punishes democratic results, especially via a clear double standard, there is a crisis of democracy.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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One thing that many liberals could agree with many conservatives on is that some anti-conservative ideas are whack and vice versa, depending on the issue. Heck, I'd imagine some of those SJW stances have some liberals become more conservative and vice versa.
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