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American Pharma Companies and Rogue/Selfish doctors addicted MILLIONS of Americans and kept them supplies with BILLIONS of pills. Somehow you skip over that.
Ah, the old "blame the pharmaceutical companies" excuse. I wonder how many posters that keep blaming "big Pharma" have actually had a very painful condition that required painkillers. I have had three painful shoulder surgeries for repeated dislocations, and if it weren't for painkillers, I wouldn't have been able to endure them. I didn't even finish the bottle each time, but I sure as heck needed them to get through the initial pain following surgery. A lot of a person's vulnerability to addiction is genetic. Poor coping skills and poverty make up much of the other factor leading to addiction. Painkillers exist for a reason; to treat terrible pain. If I were to have another surgery, I would take them again.
Was watching a program on El Chapo and the various Columbian drug lords. The have a HUGE business servicing billions of dollars of demand here n the US. It is silly to think that a wall is going to slow down drugs coming into the US, many of which come by boats, planes, containers, etc. A few mules running dope across the southern border is not enough to satisfy the demand for more than a few minutes.
Its a demand issue. Want to slow it down? Eliminate the demand. Harsh sentence for anyone caught with illegal drugs. That will reduce some of the "problem".
But why are so many people choosing to evade reality by using drugs? Is there a societal issue which is not being addressed, which makes it easier for people to avoid rather than cope? Could it have something to do with our government focusing on making the very rich even richer, on the backs of the most needy of our population?
I think people over estimate what the wall will be able to do.
Drug lords aren't stupid- the know that they have large numbers of people in America who are willing to pay for their product. If they can't get it across the border due to a wall, they will just find other ways to bring it in. Who knows how many tunnels already exist in places that have walls (just because the walls have slowed them down coming by land doesn't mean that they have stopped coming). There are also drug mules as well as smuggling by boats and airplanes. A wall is not going to stop this lucrative business.
If the democrats cared at all about these kids,they would hold a march against drugs to at least warn these kids of the huge danger of dying from a drug overdose. It would send a clear message that drugs are killers . Put the drug cartels out of business. This is a huge death sentence for many more in 2018 and every year. Any child is at risk today..
People already know drugs kill, and the government has been putting in a LOT of effort to stop the trafficking. No one blames them for not doing enough. And yes, there has been marches about drugs.
It is silly to think that a wall is going to slow down drugs coming into the US, many of which come by boats, planes, containers, etc. A few mules running dope across the southern border is not enough to satisfy the demand for more than a few minutes.
Its a demand issue. Want to slow it down? Eliminate the demand. Harsh sentence for anyone caught with illegal drugs. That will reduce some of the "problem".
How can one be so right and so wrong in one post?
Harsh sentences does not help. Are you for The Philippines way of fighting the problem? They have executed over 8000 so far, without even giving them a trial.
I think you are a LEO or somehow associated with law enforcement. If so, this will fall on deaf ears, but I am going to continue to shout it anyway:
THEWARONDRUGSDOESNOTWORK!
It is a colossal failure. Ramping it up only makes the problems worse. Why are some people so blind?
I think people over estimate what the wall will be able to do.
Drug lords aren't stupid- the know that they have large numbers of people in America who are willing to pay for their product. If they can't get it across the border due to a wall, they will just find other ways to bring it in. Who knows how many tunnels already exist in places that have walls (just because the walls have slowed them down coming by land doesn't mean that they have stopped coming). There are also drug mules as well as smuggling by boats and airplanes. A wall is not going to stop this lucrative business.
The wall isn't just to try and stop the flow of drugs it's to deter migrants coming here taking American jobs, taxes and resources and to help deter criminals and terrorists from entering. Every heard of tunnel sensors? The good walls already erected have deterred migrants etc. and the drug mules from entering thru our southern border. So yes, it does and will serve a purpose. It's called reduction in all of the above.
When you learn the basics of the drug trade, you can then perhaps come up with a better solution.
American Pharma Companies and Rogue/Selfish doctors addicted MILLIONS of Americans and kept them supplies with BILLIONS of pills. Somehow you skip over that.
Mexicans didn't know how to make real heroin so they started to make a crude form - not very dangerous and it can be smoked or swallowed also (black tar). But there is good heroin coming in from Afghanistan, Iran, Europe, etc. It can come inside a small statue mailed from anywhere - or by the ton. You can't stop it at a border....
Anyway, we are already past much of that phase. Now chemists - in the USA and elsewhere - are making concentrates from scratch. A baggie full could stone 100,000 people or more.
You need to forget about the border being a drug thing. We need comprehensive immigration reform for MANY reasons, the biggest probably being the ability to have seasonal and temp workforces.
Your information about heroin seems a tad dated.
Mexico is the third largest producer of poppy cultivation, after Afghanistan and Myanmar. Poppies are grown in mountainous regions of Mexico’s SW states. Columbia is another source of poppy cultivation for the US markets. Mexico and Central America) heroin mostly enters the US via boats, private planes and Afghanistan is the primary supplier to Europe. Myanmar and the Golden Triangle region supplies Africa.
Heroin has been cut with benign substances throughout the production cycle, since forever to increase yield, thus profit.
Black tar heroin relies on an abbreviated process and produces a distinct product not nearly as potent as traditionally processed heroin. Distribution of black tar is mostly limited, in SW US states.
Heroin is being cut with Fentanyl and other products in the US. China is the primary source of Fentalyl.
It resembles salt. Add a dash and the outcome delivers a great bank for the $. Too much will kill.
A border wall wont help people from overdosing; much like gun control/banning guns wont help reduce gun violence. We have to focus on individuals, and what compels them to use these drugs in the first place.
Heroin is being cut with Fentanyl and powerful tranquilizers IN THE US.
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