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Old 03-29-2018, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Originally Posted by Workin_Hard View Post
A $0.43 bullet beats a million dollar trial and incarceration every time.

Iíll donate 10,000 rounds today. (And I would still have many left.)

Don't know about if you ever saw this move, called Citizen X, about the worst serial killer in Russia:


Short of the story, it took years for Russia to even admit there was a serial killer, and even more time to catch the killer.


But when they did, they brought the killer up in court in a cage, the patrons in the court room were throwing fruit and other things at this person, after the killer was found guilty; he was taking behind the court house, told don't turn around, and was SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD.




There is something to be said for that, quick and done.
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Old 03-29-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Don't know about if you ever saw this move, called Citizen X, about the worst serial killer in Russia:

Short of the story, it took years for Russia to even admit there was a serial killer, and even more time to catch the killer.

But when they did, they brought the killer up in court in a cage, the patrons in the court room were throwing fruit and other things at this person, after the killer was found guilty; he was taking behind the court house, told don't turn around, and was SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD.

There is something to be said for that, quick and done.
This would be the extreme right version of ignoring the Constitution. We aren't Russia, nor any other country, THANK GOD!


4.1% of all convicted murderers are innocent.
How Many People Are Wrongly Convicted? Researchers Do the Math. – Phenomena: Only Human

Sorry, your $0.60 bullet solution is a really REALLY bad idea.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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This would be the extreme right version of ignoring the Constitution. We aren't Russia, nor any other country, THANK GOD!


4.1% of all convicted murderers are innocent.
How Many People Are Wrongly Convicted? Researchers Do the Math. Ė Phenomena: Only Human

Sorry, your $0.60 bullet solution is a really REALLY bad idea.
NO we are not Russia, the process for death row is bar far much too long of a process. Multiple appeals, and then years on death row, before a person is finally put to death for their crimes. And this is after conviction.


The process should be shorted, 1 appeal, and then a year on death row max. After that the sentence is carried out.


Part of the reason we have the crime rates that we have as a country, and many people do not fear the punishment, if more people feared the outcome of their actions you would see violent crime decrease.
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:36 AM
 
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We struggle in my area with meth labs. The same people are arrested over and over and never serve time. They get probation every time. We have voted out the incumbent prosecutor three elections in a row. Nothing changes. Doesn't seem to matter. The police get frustrated. The criminals are back out ROR, before the cops get the paperwork done.
They shouldnt be involved in the war on drugs to begin with!!

There was a headline last week about opioid overdose and death rates continue to skyrocket and the only thing local Govt and law enforcement can come up with is....new, tough laws/ regulations!!! LOL, its the same song and dance the last time overdose and drug related figures skyrocketed...so why do they think it will work this time, when it has failed miserably every time before?

Its almost like this is the ONLY solution they can even come up with!
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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Don't know about if you ever saw this move, called Citizen X, about the worst serial killer in Russia:


Short of the story, it took years for Russia to even admit there was a serial killer, and even more time to catch the killer.


But when they did, they brought the killer up in court in a cage, the patrons in the court room were throwing fruit and other things at this person, after the killer was found guilty; he was taking behind the court house, told don't turn around, and was SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD.




There is something to be said for that, quick and done.
Good movie, even though the reality is that he was executed a couple of years later, not right there, on the spot, after his conviction.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by Pete Voelker/The Outline - Compton Village in Wilmington.
Death in Wilmington

If you live there, it’s almost impossible not to know someone who’s been shot.

Paul Blest

Mar—29—2018 09:00AM EST

On the night of December 16, 2017, Allen “Duffy” Samuels and his family were celebrating his daughter’s sweet sixteen at a hotel in Wilmington, Delaware, when his sister, Arica Samuels, received a call. “She screamed and ran out to the lobby,” he said. “The next thing we knew, we were at the hospital.”

Her son, Keanan, a freshman at Benedict College in South Carolina, was home for Christmas break. That night he had gone to a vigil for a friend, 19-year-old Barry White, who had been shot and killed that September on Wilmington’s north side. After Keanan left the vigil, a still-unidentified assailant opened fire sometime around 7:45 p.m. and hit Samuels in the neck and face area, according to the police. He died at the hospital later that night. He was 20 years old, and the 32nd and final gun-homicide victim of the year in the city of just over 70,000.
Rinse, wash, repeat. He had no reason to die. And no one had a reason to kill him.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:10 PM
Status: "Days like this I think to myself "I hate living in Georgia"." (set 3 days ago)
 
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When people commit a crime, the last thing on their minds is the possible penalty.
In some cases, the crooks WANT to go to prison. There are some people who are more comfortable in prison than in the outside world.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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They shouldnt be involved in the war on drugs to begin with!!

There was a headline last week about opioid overdose and death rates continue to skyrocket and the only thing local Govt and law enforcement can come up with is....new, tough laws/ regulations!!! LOL, its the same song and dance the last time overdose and drug related figures skyrocketed...so why do they think it will work this time, when it has failed miserably every time before?

Its almost like this is the ONLY solution they can even come up with!
The majority of these criminals commit burglaries, armed robberies and car thefts to support their habit.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:31 PM
 
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We need to make a deal with Mexico to build prisons there for our criminals. Cheaper and creates jobs for Mexicans so they don't have to come here.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Life without parole does not mean life without parole. Parole Of Ex-Radical In 1971 Raising Outcry By Police.
Do you have a statistic on this or just anecdotal evidence?

This article does serve as a reminder as to why I oppose the existence of a life without parole sentence. Almost all of the arguments against paroling this man were entirely emotional.

Edit: also, he was not sentenced to life without parole, so my initial question is avoid since you don't even have anecdotal evidence.
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