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Old 03-28-2018, 06:42 AM
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Putin’s Grim Reality: Public Fury Over Children’s Deaths in Mall

I thought this of interest...Russia is still Russia..corrupt and restless--Many do not like Putin...they struggle to be heard...because Putin runs the media.

Brief excerpt:

"That Russia is far from being a monolithic one-party state, despite Mr. Putin’s lopsided re-election, was clear Tuesday evening in the two events organized to mourn the dead in Kemerovo.

One was state-sponsored, near the Kremlin; the other was held in Pushkin Square, by Muscovites who wanted no part in the official gathering. The alternative wake began as a solemn vigil with mourners burning candles and laying flowers, some of them in tears, but gradually turned into a small-scale political rally with chants of “Russia without Putin!” “Corruption kills!” “Shame on television!” and “Silence means death!”

Mr. Putin avoided mention of what many, including those who lost family members, believe was the real cause of the fire: a state system, including multiple agencies responsible for limiting fire and other risks, eaten away by corruption and incompetence.

Russia has strict building codes and elaborate safety regulations but, instead of being enforced, they are frequently skirted with the help of corrupt officials willing to turn a blind eye to violations in return for cash bribes and favors. Law enforcement officers, who are supposed to prevent this, are themselves often on the take or under pressure from powerful political barons not to investigate."
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Old 03-28-2018, 06:50 AM
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Exactly what you would expect from Russia. Sad to say this, but if I were an unhappy Russian citizen, I would be very careful about protesting Putin in any way, whether it be at a rally-gathering or on social media.

Putin will kill anyone that gets in his way. Literally.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:36 AM
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Putin does not belong to a political party. The most popular one, United Russia, supports him though. There are often some sort of protests/marches in Moscow, over some policy or lack of, calling for Putin and the Russian government to do something. Anyone is free to fly to Moscow and witness this yourself, though you may need to stay a month to catch one.

Putin has openly on TV, will post the videos if you want, stated this is a criminal act, about the corruption and people failing to do their jobs as the reason for the fire.

Russia does have strict codes, comparable to the West, but corruption reigns, though I am sure all shopping center owners and local gov officials are scrambling right now to make sure they are to spec, lol.

The rally was not too small given the population, a lot of people were there. Added to the anger is the rumors (which may end up being facts) that the gov is lying about the number dead, about why the doors were locked and no alarm, people claiming security told the children to not go down the broke escalators but return to where they came from, security kept people from outside running in to assist and claiming there is no one inside, and the very slow response to the scene by emergency services personnel.
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