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Old 04-05-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by arjay57 View Post
Exactly.

What a bizarre world, where people who are lucky enough to survive a mass shooting are reviled and subjected to death threats, while the killer who gunned down a slew of innocent people is shrugged off as somebody who just had a temporary mental problem.
So much wrong in this sentence.

It is a bizarre world, where being lucky enough to survive a mass shooting gives you the impression that you are now entitled to take away folks Constitutional Rights. Where you feel entitled to call the head of an organization that works to protect those rights murderers.

Nobody is "shrugging off" the shooter. He's in custody. He will get his just punishment. And I don't know of anyone that is calling his mental problems temporary.

 
Old 04-05-2018, 08:33 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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So much wrong in this sentence.

It is a bizarre world, where being lucky enough to survive a mass shooting gives you the impression that you are now entitled to take away folks Constitutional Rights. Where you feel entitled to call the head of an organization that works to protect those rights murderers.

Nobody is "shrugging off" the shooter. He's in custody. He will get his just punishment. And I don't know of anyone that is calling his mental problems temporary.
It's a documented fact that surviving a shooting, even if you never were directly under fire (hiding in closet or classroom seeing nothing) automatically grants you the wisdom of the gods,anoints you an expert on all things that go BANG and furthermore the right to decree what others will do from then on.
Yep, all the kids who were anywhere on that campus when the shooting went on should now be brought to D.C. and given a Federal position as firearms experts and policy experts...

It's certainly terrible what those kids went through and they should get any mental help they require BUT they are not any more qualified to speak to what we should do as a nation than any other minor child, in other words not at all qualified.
 
Old 04-05-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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It's a documented fact that surviving a shooting, even if you never were directly under fire (hiding in closet or classroom seeing nothing) automatically grants you the wisdom of the gods,anoints you an expert on all things that go BANG and furthermore the right to decree what others will do from then on.
Yep, all the kids who were anywhere on that campus when the shooting went on should now be brought to D.C. and given a Federal position as firearms experts and policy experts...

It's certainly terrible what those kids went through and they should get any mental help they require BUT they are not any more qualified to speak to what we should do as a nation than any other minor child, in other words not at all qualified.
Surviving a school mass shooting doesn't make you an expert but neither does owning a gun or being a member of the NRA.

If my kid wanted to speak out I'd back him up.
 
Old 04-05-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: My House
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Originally Posted by ringwise View Post
So much wrong in this sentence.

It is a bizarre world, where being lucky enough to survive a mass shooting gives you the impression that you are now entitled to take away folks Constitutional Rights. Where you feel entitled to call the head of an organization that works to protect those rights murderers.

Nobody is "shrugging off" the shooter. He's in custody. He will get his just punishment. And I don't know of anyone that is calling his mental problems temporary.
Last I checked, David Hogg wasn't capable of taking away anyone's Constitutional rights.

Unless he's been elected Emperor and I missed that news briefing.

Now, he can call the head of the NRA whatever he wants. It's a free country.

But, what's that got to do with the 2nd?
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Old 04-05-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ringwise View Post
So much wrong in this sentence.

It is a bizarre world, where being lucky enough to survive a mass shooting gives you the impression that you are now entitled to take away folks Constitutional Rights. Where you feel entitled to call the head of an organization that works to protect those rights murderers.

Nobody is "shrugging off" the shooter. He's in custody. He will get his just punishment. And I don't know of anyone that is calling his mental problems temporary.

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Originally Posted by jimj View Post
It's a documented fact that surviving a shooting, even if you never were directly under fire (hiding in closet or classroom seeing nothing) automatically grants you the wisdom of the gods,anoints you an expert on all things that go BANG and furthermore the right to decree what others will do from then on.
Yep, all the kids who were anywhere on that campus when the shooting went on should now be brought to D.C. and given a Federal position as firearms experts and policy experts...

It's certainly terrible what those kids went through and they should get any mental help they require BUT they are not any more qualified to speak to what we should do as a nation than any other minor child, in other words not at all qualified.
2 great posts...
 
Old 04-05-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: My House
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It's a documented fact that surviving a shooting, even if you never were directly under fire (hiding in closet or classroom seeing nothing) automatically grants you the wisdom of the gods,anoints you an expert on all things that go BANG and furthermore the right to decree what others will do from then on.
Yep, all the kids who were anywhere on that campus when the shooting went on should now be brought to D.C. and given a Federal position as firearms experts and policy experts...

It's certainly terrible what those kids went through and they should get any mental help they require BUT they are not any more qualified to speak to what we should do as a nation than any other minor child, in other words not at all qualified.
I don't see why not. The cabinets are all fully of gross incompetence as it is.

They are as qualified as the rest of us to say what they think. So, they are saying it.

They have an audience right now BECAUSE they went through such a terrible experience. They are using this time with media attention to forward a cause that means something to them.

People do it all the time.
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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This is a thread for people who watch too much TV.
 
Old 04-05-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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It's a documented fact that surviving a shooting, even if you never were directly under fire (hiding in closet or classroom seeing nothing) automatically grants you the wisdom of the gods,anoints you an expert on all things that go BANG and furthermore the right to decree what others will do from then on.
Yep, all the kids who were anywhere on that campus when the shooting went on should now be brought to D.C. and given a Federal position as firearms experts and policy experts...

It's certainly terrible what those kids went through and they should get any mental help they require BUT they are not any more qualified to speak to what we should do as a nation than any other minor child, in other words not at all qualified.
Of course they are qualified to speak about how they feel. Absolutely. Have you ever survived a mass shooting?
 
Old 04-05-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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It's certainly terrible what those kids went through and they should get any mental help they require BUT they are not any more qualified to speak to what we should do as a nation than any other minor child, in other words not at all qualified.
What qualifies you to make this determination? I'm just curious.
 
Old 04-05-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What qualifies you to make this determination? I'm just curious.
um..who are you to say if he is right or wrong?
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