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But it was democrat vice president Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore, that waged the war on rap music and trying to censorship music. Started first back in the 80's with John Denver (the fool thought that his song "Rocky Mountain High" was about being stoned) and Twisted Sister, but then later she and her clan went after the NWA and Tupac. She couldn't stop them from releasing records, but she did get laws passed that they had to have advisory stickers on the albums, and when those were present, only 18 year olds and up could purchase the music.
All I got to say is, their effort was pointless in the end. Kids don't learn to curse from music or movies, they learn by watching their own parents at home.
Yup, she did. Then there was Anita Bryant, who eventually got pied.
Both were pretty silly, IMNSHO.
The fact remains that it's mostly conservatives who get all up in arms about sex and bad words. Objections to violence seems to be a bit more bipartisan.
What is OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE? Anything that is against the Democrat, liberal/progressive agenda? So in addition to Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, and Instagram censoring conservative content, now Microsoft will also? Oh yeah, MSN is already doing that.
I agree we need to be very careful allowing freedom of thought/speech to be restricted. Still I think the law was designed to prevent every form of perversion/subversion, etc. from just being a click away.
The internet has become a haven for what is banned or at least not readily accessible in stores for sale.
So if there is some publication that is about bestiality, child porn, etc., it is already prohibited by law and not sold in stores.
I imagine some tiny print shops or the like produce such things that you'd need to find in the back room of a adult book store or such place.
At least there is will not be inadvertently seen by kids or readily accessible.
So while it is designed to protect society from illegal and vile trash, we must be vigilant to not allow it to pervade into politics or freedom of thought/expression.
Wonder if they'll eventually monitor my Outlook email or the Word Document I type.
Switching to Google would be no different.
Yes, they will be reading your e-mails.
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Originally Posted by warhorse78
But it was democrat vice president Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore, that waged the war on rap music and trying to censorship music. Started first back in the 80's with John Denver (the fool thought that his song "Rocky Mountain High" was about being stoned) and Twisted Sister, but then later she and her clan went after the NWA and Tupac. She couldn't stop them from releasing records, but she did get laws passed that they had to have advisory stickers on the albums, and when those were present, only 18 year olds and up could purchase the music.
All I got to say is, their effort was pointless in the end. Kids don't learn to curse from music or movies, they learn by watching their own parents at home.
Don't forget she attacked Ozzy Osbourne's song Suicide Solution.
She thought the song promoted suicide, when it actually railed against the evils of substance abuse.
Ive never heard anyone complain about the FCC and how they censor network TV for 'appropriate' language, Im not sure when so many people tolerated a Govt agency deciding what is appropriate though!
I always thought that was stupid but there was no point in complaining about it because I know that's just the way it is. I do try to find movies in their original version though as much as they can. When I used to watch the Breakfast Club, I would never watch it on a certain channel because it wasn't the same without the curse words.
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Originally Posted by warhorse78
But it was democrat vice president Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore, that waged the war on rap music and trying to censorship music. Started first back in the 80's with John Denver (the fool thought that his song "Rocky Mountain High" was about being stoned) and Twisted Sister, but then later she and her clan went after the NWA and Tupac. She couldn't stop them from releasing records, but she did get laws passed that they had to have advisory stickers on the albums, and when those were present, only 18 year olds and up could purchase the music.
All I got to say is, their effort was pointless in the end. Kids don't learn to curse from music or movies, they learn by watching their own parents at home.
Curse words aren't even bad technically anyway (the f word for example has an interesting origin). It's all about context. Sure a kid could use the word in the wrong context but they could do that with a lot of words. If we thought about all the words that could be spun as hurtful we'd probably run out of words to express ourselves with.
My reaction is that if you don't like it, don't watch, listen, or read it. I will say that I support the rating systems though, I think it's fair that people who are concerned about this have a general idea what they or their kids might be exposed to.
IDK about that, Im not sure I want my kids believing its a good thing some Govt agency is responsible for deciding what it appropriate and not for network tv, movies, etc...what is that teaching them ultimately?
IDK about that, Im not sure I want my kids believing its a good thing some Govt agency is responsible for deciding what it appropriate and not for network tv, movies, etc...what is that teaching them ultimately?
Well, when I grew up, books like "Lady Chatterley's Lover" could not be legally published in the US. My best friend in high school had a military brother stationed in Europe, and he sent us "care packages". Those books got passed around when we were done with them. Most of us had to hide them from parents and teachers when we were reading them, but read them we did.
I think today you can read, listen to, and watch any damn thing you please. Visual media that can't be shown on the public airwaves can still be readily found for you to play on your TV. As can music that can't be played on the radio.
If most people in the US want some kind of regulation over the publicly-regulated airwaves, as in so many other areas of life, the majority rules.
BTW, I don't use Microsoft products, so I don't really care what they do. They're a private company, they can regulate what they allow on their platform, just as the Christian Broadcasting Company does.
I don't see the government banning this kind of controversial content across the board. I dearly hope those days are over. Rest assured, I'll be the first one to protest if any such move is made.
Why blame Microsoft? They are reacting to FOSTA in the interest of protecting their business.
Your beef is with Congress which was bipartisan in support of FOSTA (even DOJ was against it). Its not a liberal vs conservative issue
No, its correct to blame Microsloth because their little fascist crackdown on speech has NOTHING to do with the law. Their ban is on "offensive language and inappropriate content".
This term is not contained with the text of FOSTA. Nor is it the same thing at all. Offensive or inappropriate are subjective descriptions. Content might be both offensive and inappropriate without being illegal under FOSTA.
Specifically the only crimes identified within FOSTA as it relates to sex-trafficking is "knowingly facilitating" illegal ads placed which offer sexual activity for compensation.
This is just Microsloth being even more idiotic than usual.
You understand the irony of posting this on a strictly moderated public forum? Yes?
Yes, well, if CD did any serious Left-wing censorship crap like FB, Twitter,and Youtube are doing and censored me, I'd just use my 20+ email accounts (originally made to create seed accounts for an online forum of mine) to make socks and keep posting. And I'd use Tor to dodge IP bans. (I can play dirty too.) So far, city-data has done no such thing so I haven't needed to.
As for Microsoft, saw this coming a while back and already vowed to get Linux after this computer dies. I found that Open Office can do pretty much everything Word can do and I don't have to fork over $100 every year to keep renewing it.
The best thing Microsoft does for me now is its OneDrive, but it's not strong enough to keep my loyal to Windows, especially Windows 10.
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