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Old 04-02-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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That's not true at all, and you are just being dishonest.
The "plans" as laid forth in this thread seem to follow that.
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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Get them off the streets and into a place where there can be a strong incentive to play by the rules of a civilized society; the rest is just a matter of fine-tuning.



Yu begin with what's known as vagrancy statute; they were quite common in an era when adult men outnumbered adult women and family structure was stronger. We don't need to revert to something quite that harsh, but a basic contract of social (and societal) responsibility needs to be re-formulated and re-established.
When was this time when adult men outnumbered adult women??

If anything there have been more women than men in Earth, and that isn't new.
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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IDK Liberals, are you going to allow the mentally ill ones to be institutionalized where they belong or not? Once the mentally ill (incapable) are weeded out, the remaining ones could most likely work.
Gosh, I never knew it was up to me to allow the mentally ill to be institutionalized, seems that the Supreme Court has already weighed in on this though:

O’Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975) Held: states cannot constitutionally confine, a person who is not a danger to others or to himself. The latter category includes the suicidal and the “gravely disabled,”

IDK, kind of makes me wonder how much research some people have done on the legality of institutionalization of the mentally ill before they start ranting about liberals on the forum
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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That's not true at all, and you are just being dishonest.
Really? What is the plan conservatives are proposing if it's not survival of the strongest?
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Gosh, I never knew it was up to me to allow the mentally ill to be institutionalized, seems that the Supreme Court has already weighed in on this though:

O’Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975) Held: states cannot constitutionally confine, a person who is not a danger to others or to himself. The latter category includes the suicidal and the “gravely disabled,”

IDK, kind of makes me wonder how much research some people have done on the legality of institutionalization of the mentally ill before they start ranting about liberals on the forum
Even mentally ill people get hungry. Even an idiot dog, learns how to find something to eat.
If their job all day is dumpster diving, who am I to think for them.

They are bait for the predators, so they stay off me. Keep them unarmed!!
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I'm honestly curious about this because half of the posts on this board are trashing liberals for homelessness that happens in cities.

So what's the conservative, small-government plan to get them off drugs and integrated into society?
The highest homeless rates are in liberal managed cities. Los Angeles and NYC account for nearly 130k alone.

https://www.statista.com/chart/6949/...meless-people/

Looks like the progressive bleeding heart way of handling them is what made the problem worse.

So, the better question is; why have the progressives liberals failed so miserably?

...and why do they always blame conservatives for their failures?



Before anyone pops off, I've emptied my wallet to help some of the local homeless. It isn't because some slug bureaucrat forces me to, it's because I want to. Using someone else money is theft, using your own money is compassion.
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That's not true at all, and you are just being dishonest.
That is exactly what this nation was founded upon. Liberty and the law of nature.
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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The highest homeless rates are in liberal managed cities. Los Angeles and NYC account for nearly 130k alone.
A lot of them ended up there because of "solutions" like as offered in this thread, such as:

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Bus them to someplace else.

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Give em a one way bus ticket to Oakland with a voucher for a bottle of wine.

Can not help them, they are mentally ill and addicts.
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Boston
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it's the same as Obama's .....do nothing, Dems loved it then.....
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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it's the same as Obama's .....do nothing, Dems loved it then.....
Have we ever had a federal plan for dealing with homelessness, under any administration?
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