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Old 04-01-2018, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Get rid of illegal aliens and jobs will open up for the homeless.
I’ve hired plenty of illegals. I would not hire a homeless guy.

Most have a screw loose.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Set up an environment such that businesses can create jobs. At that point the "homeless" have 2 choices, get a job and become a useful member of society. Or set up some camps in the desert with lots of barbed wire. OK, 3rd choice for the mentally ill-increase the number of asylums we have to provide help for those that truly need it. Clean up the streets and get the bums out. More important-instill some degree of shame for being a bum. Far too many are choosing this as a lifestyle.
It's ironic the lengths people will go to to defend their 2nd amendment rights and then advocate unconstitutional 'remedies' for homelessness.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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In many cases they are on the street by choice
Of course..because sleeping under a tarp on skid row is the funnest thing ever
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Of course..because sleeping under a tarp on skid row is the funnest thing ever
Id prefer to live in a mansion.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Not a conservative, but the correct answer is always private charity.
How much money do you think private charity has to spend on the homeless? There are half a million homeless in the US. Annual revenue for the Salvation Army in 2016 was $3,736,538 that is $7.47 per homeless person about enough to buy each of them a blanket.

Most shelters in Los Angeles are run by charities but they don't have the money to fund them so the County kicks in 24 million a year, that funds enough shelter space for 1/3 of the 58,000 homeless people in the County.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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you really want to know a conservative plan.

not our problem, tell them to get a job and be productive and responsible
And if they don't or can't? Then you step over their feces on your way to work and your kids find their syringes in public parks, great plan!
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:31 PM
 
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For all practical purposes, we know the answer.

Ship to California and then blame the whole problem on west coast liberals.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Get them off the streets and into a place where there can be a strong incentive to play by the rules of a civilized society; the rest is just a matter of fine-tuning.
Yu begin with what's known as vagrancy statute; they were quite common in an era when adult men outnumbered adult women and family structure was stronger. We don't need to revert to something quite that harsh, but a basic contract of social (and societal) responsibility needs to be re-formulated and re-established.
And are you going to write an amendment to the constitution to make that legal? You can't round people up and ship them off to special retraining places. It's a complex problem, but somehow New York has managed to provide shelter for all but 4,000 of their 63k + homeless.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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For all practical purposes, we know the answer.

Ship to California and then blame the whole problem on west coast liberals.
That's already been tried and it didn't turn out too well when Nevada got caught dumping their mentally ill in San Francisco.

SF reaches $400K settlement proposal in Nevada patient-dumping case - by j_sabatini - October 5, 2015 - The San Francisco Examiner
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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The Kenyan sure did not do much about it for the previous 8 years.
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