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I did it for 27 years for a steel company and made a good living, and I retired comfortable. The drawback was, it got to be boring as heck a lot of the time, especially the last five years or so. No job is perfect, no matter how good it might be.
I agree. The dream can get dull. But just because you had the skill or talent for something higher than a hard labor job doesn't mean your lazy.
If hard labor is your thing, then by all means go for it!. If it's the best you can have to sustain on your way to your real goal, but go for it as well.
I agree. The dream can get dull. But just because you had the skill or talent for something higher than a hard labor job doesn't mean your lazy.
If hard labor is your thing, then by all means go for it!. If it's the best you can have to sustain on your way to your real goal, but go for it as well.
I did both in my life. It really is nothing more than a matter of what you get used to. When I was outside in the summer, I wanted to be in an office, When I was in an office, I wanted to be outside in the summer.
Also the study points out that the largest source of millennial debt is student loans. Guess which generation decided it would be a good idea to shift the cost of higher education from older taxpayers to younger students?
What is that question meant to imply. Most of my fathers generation worked jobs and saved for college. Some even were working while going to college, as their parents didn't have the money.
Heck, my dads best friend put himself through medical school by working after class, and when he got home took ice baths to keep himself awake to study.
My generation probably received a little more help, but I worked while I went to college as well.
So why shouldn't the current crop of kids do the same thing?
That the issue is far more complex and nuanced than the analysis provided in the OP.
That it's a bit ironic, as well, given the whole circular nature of what's happening. Millenial choices do not occur in a vacuum, they are driven in large part by policies that were enacted by older generations, so it's amusing to see y'all try to mock and deride millenials.
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Most of my fathers generation worked jobs and saved for college. Some even were working while going to college, as their parents didn't have the money.
Heck, my dads best friend put himself through medical school by working after class, and when he got home took ice baths to keep himself awake to study.
My generation probably received a little more help, but I worked while I went to college as well.
So why shouldn't the current crop of kids do the same thing?
It's not about whether they should. Many do, or at least they attempt to. But the money you can earn as a part-time student will not put a dent in today's tuition at a 4-year university.
Boomers also typically had a wife that stayed home with the children, had small homes that had multiple children to a room, one car, ate out rarely, and very few luxuries. That would be unthinkable today.
Wrong generation. Boomers themselves were raised in way you described, by parents whose extreme frugality was shaped by surviving the Great Depression. Both spouses working became the norm when Boomers we’re raising their families, along with bigger homes, multiple cars, frequent travel and dining out. Say what you want about Boomers; they wanted more out of life than just eking out a living. And they were willing to work for it.
I’m not a Boomer, btw.
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College was cheaper in 1981-82, BUT guess what? The economy was horrible, interest rates high, no gas. And you actually had to apply and qualify for student loans. Nobody stood around whining about what they deserved.
Nobody paid my way; I did it myself by working my tail off in high school to get scholarships and holding down a job.
lol worker shortages are not because of "Laziness," they are because of (A) A labor market that collapsed and (B) a huge influx of illegal construction workers who'd work for half the cost, and their deportation.
i knew plenty of millenial construction workers back in 2006-2008. It was a solid gig for a while. Then the housing market collapsed, they all got laid off in 2008-2012 and moved into other careers. Now the people who laid them off are complaining that they can't find workers, which is just typical short-sighted American business practice.
Stop trying to add some kind of moral spin on peoples' rational economic choices.
heres a "rational economic choice"...........if you cannot afford college and you are unemployed......whats to keep you from getting a job in construction if they are desperate for workers?
heres a "rational economic choice"...........if you cannot afford college and you are unemployed......whats to keep you from getting a job in construction if they are desperate for workers?
anything, I suppose. maybe this hypothetical, broke, unemployed millenial has no arms or legs.
or nothing at all. Maybe this hypothetical, broke, unemployed millenial has nothing keeping him or her from working construction.
seems to be a rather vague question. In any event, construction is cyclical, so they are constantly vacillating back and forth between 'desperate to hire' and 'desperate to fire.'
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