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Amazing that all of a sudden the libs are all for attacking a foreign country.
So you think everyone who is cautious about celebrating all of this is for attacking a foreign country.
Well that's an interesting thought process.
So they got together for a big show. Has anything really changed? Nope -- promising -- well it depends on whether you take into consideration past behaviour, promises, agreements that North Korea has made.
Trump loved the big show of it all. He would love to bring world peace. And yeah he should try.
But let's not pretend it's all sunshine, roses and unicorns yet....lol.
So you think everyone who is cautious about celebrating all of this is for attacking a foreign country.
Well that's an interesting thought process.
So they got together for a big show. Has anything really changed? Nope -- promising -- well it depends on whether you take into consideration past behaviour, promises, agreements that North Korea has made.
Trump loved the big show of it all. He would love to bring world peace. And yeah he should try.
But let's not pretend it's all sunshine, roses and unicorns yet....lol.
Can you see into North Korea? I can; but my Google Earth pictures of their capitol are eight months old. President Trump has had only one and a half years to fix a war that has gone on for 65 years. President Obama had eight years, President Clinton had eight years, Both Bush Presidents also had 16 years total and I could go on. I presume that our Pentagon has better pictures than Google Earth. I will probably have to wait months for new Earth pictures before I can make my untrained assessment of the situation.
Maybe I am wrong; but I would at least like to wait and see what happens. How many times did you criticize our past Presidents for their lack of action on North Korea? I think it would only be fair to give this another six months to see what happens. I would bet that you gave the last two liberal Presidents 16 years and did not complain!
"The Agreed Framework succeeded in temporarily freezing North Korea’s plutonium production capabilities and placing it under IAEA safeguards by freezing operation of North Korea’s 5 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and stopping construction of two other reactors – a 50 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and a 200 MWe reactor at Taechon. Experts estimate that without the Agreed Framework, North Korea could have hundreds of nuclear weapons at this point."
Light water reactors would have made it far more difficult and expensive to reprocess used-up factor fuel into weapons-grade plutonium.
Plus, it would be far easier to tell if North Koreans shut down their light-water reactors. "To extract the fuel rods, you have to lift off a giant lid at the top of the reactor and take them out all at once. Weapons inspectors love this feature because it requires a large-scale operation that's almost impossible to conceal."
These light water reactors would replace the "so-called "research reactors" which are both harder to inspect and more efficient at producing weapons-usable plutonium than the light-water variety.
Bush, Cheney, Bolton, etc. abandoned the agreement rather than rallying international support to enforce the agreement and the light water reactors were never built. Satellite images show them sitting abandoned to this day.
FYI: No nuclear material was ever provided to North Korea nor were the means to make nukes ever given to North Korea by the U.S.
Brings to mind the Iran Agreement that Obama worked diligently on and Trump abandoned.
"The Agreed Framework succeeded in temporarily freezing North Korea’s plutonium production capabilities and placing it under IAEA safeguards by freezing operation of North Korea’s 5 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and stopping construction of two other reactors – a 50 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and a 200 MWe reactor at Taechon. Experts estimate that without the Agreed Framework, North Korea could have hundreds of nuclear weapons at this point."
Light water reactors would have made it far more difficult and expensive to reprocess used-up factor fuel into weapons-grade plutonium.
Plus, it would be far easier to tell if North Koreans shut down their light-water reactors. "To extract the fuel rods, you have to lift off a giant lid at the top of the reactor and take them out all at once. Weapons inspectors love this feature because it requires a large-scale operation that's almost impossible to conceal."
These light water reactors would replace the "so-called "research reactors" which are both harder to inspect and more efficient at producing weapons-usable plutonium than the light-water variety.
Bush, Cheney, Bolton, etc. abandoned the agreement rather than rallying international support to enforce the agreement and the light water reactors were never built. Satellite images show them sitting abandoned to this day.
FYI: No nuclear material was ever provided to North Korea nor were the means to make nukes ever given to North Korea by the U.S.
Brings to mind the Iran Agreement that Obama worked diligently on and Trump abandoned.
And President Clinton had eight years to get that accomplished. You probably never criticized that move one time. Did it stop Kim from making nukes or missiles?
As for the Iran agreement: President Obama sought a deal at all cost. Could we have done better; I am sure we could. There were too many concessions and the public is now only finding out all we gave away. Does Iran like us any better because of the deal?
"The Agreed Framework succeeded in temporarily freezing North Korea’s plutonium production capabilities and placing it under IAEA safeguards by freezing operation of North Korea’s 5 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and stopping construction of two other reactors – a 50 MWe reactor at Yongbyon and a 200 MWe reactor at Taechon. Experts estimate that without the Agreed Framework, North Korea could have hundreds of nuclear weapons at this point."
Light water reactors would have made it far more difficult and expensive to reprocess used-up factor fuel into weapons-grade plutonium.
Plus, it would be far easier to tell if North Koreans shut down their light-water reactors. "To extract the fuel rods, you have to lift off a giant lid at the top of the reactor and take them out all at once. Weapons inspectors love this feature because it requires a large-scale operation that's almost impossible to conceal."
These light water reactors would replace the "so-called "research reactors" which are both harder to inspect and more efficient at producing weapons-usable plutonium than the light-water variety.
Bush, Cheney, Bolton, etc. abandoned the agreement rather than rallying international support to enforce the agreement and the light water reactors were never built. Satellite images show them sitting abandoned to this day.
FYI: No nuclear material was ever provided to North Korea nor were the means to make nukes ever given to North Korea by the U.S.
Brings to mind the Iran Agreement that Obama worked diligently on and Trump abandoned.
What agreement did Obama make with Iran, that congress signed? Oh, you mean the paper that Obama signed that meant nothing nor could it be held accountable to....
How'd that work out for us?
Quote:
"This agreement will help achieve a longstanding and vital American objective -- an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean Peninsula," Mr. Clinton said this afternoon, after his top foreign policy advisers described the details of an enormously complex agreement struck with North Korea late Monday.
Clinton and Obama gave it their best shot. Republicans criticized them constantly.
Bush and Cheney undermined the deal Clinton and other nations had worked out to bring North Korea into the community of nuclear-responsible nations. They would have likely had a lot more electricity now and quite possibly internet, etc., making it more difficult to keep North Koreans in the dark about what is going on the rest of the world.
Regarding the Iran deal, IRRC, Republicans in Congress even signed a letter to Iran warning them that Obama couldn't be trusted, and generally tried to undermine this deal at every turn.
Now, of course, Trump and the Republicans have abandoned that agreement altogether. Though other nations appear to be continuing to work with Iran.
Now it's Trump turn at bat.
So far, not too impressed. But who knows how things will work out.
What I do know is that the Republicans certainly didn't demonstrate the same patience and support for either Clinton or Obama that they are demanding for Trump.
Yes This backs up the fact of regular republican obstruction of a democratic president.
They did the same thing when Obama wanted to go after Putin more aggressively in 2016. They threatened to claim foul unfair support for Hillary if he said anything specific.
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