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Old 04-19-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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Same thing.

So ... do you believe in preemptive murder to save your own life?

Why is this question never acknowledged?
I did. There is no such thing. I'm pro-life. You have no point.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Pro-choice only care about the mother.

Pro-life care about mother AND baby..
The term pro-life is a misnomer, because the pro-forced-birthers do not care about the life of the woman. She is only an incubator to them. Only the zygote/fetus matters to the forced-birth crowd.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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The term pro-life is a misnomer, because the pro-forced-birthers do not care about the life of the woman. She is only an incubator to them. Only the zygote/fetus matters to the forced-birth crowd.
Post 257. Where do you disagree with me?
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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Post 257. Where do you disagree with me?
I don't disagree with that post, but you aren't one of those who insists on forcing women to give birth against their will, so obviously you aren't who I was addressing in the post you quoted.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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I don't disagree with that post, but you aren't one of those who insists on forcing women to give birth against their will, so obviously you aren't who I was addressing in the post you quoted.
I'm pro-life which is who you addressed.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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I did. There is no such thing. I'm pro-life. You have no point.
Got it. You choose to ignore the murder so the question "doesn't exist".
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:35 AM
 
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Abortion is murder, actually.

The sole purpose of abortion is to kill babies. Otherwise women would still be pregnant after an abortion. Because pregnancy means having a baby.
So in your world, does a miscarriage mean the fetus committed suicide?
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Got it. You choose to ignore the murder so the question "doesn't exist".
There is no murder.
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Old 04-19-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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One cannot "dilute" the term murder. It's definition is self explanatory. Circumstances of health or perceived health have nothing to do with whether a killing is murder.

Murder is murder. Period. No matter how you CHOOSE to justify it.
I agree. "Murder" is self-explanatory. That's why abortion isn't murder.

You're the one with the definition of murder most people appear to disagree with, based off our laws. You're the one with the weird definition of it that I don't see the purpose of.
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Old 04-19-2018, 11:27 AM
 
Location: crafton pa
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Again, it is impossible to predict ahead of time that a woman will die from giving birth.


Everything can seem completely normal right up to the point when things suddenly go south and the woman dies.


Carrying a pregnancy and giving birth is a very real threat to a woman's life whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.


Why do pro-lifers have such a hard time with truth and facts?
Are you okay with forcing people to vaccinate their children? Just as one example, the MMR vaccine carries a risk of a child developing acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, which is a neurological condition that carries up to a 10% mortality rate. Forced vaccination carries a risk of death. We don't know which children will die because of the MMR vaccine. Is it still okay to force parents to vaccinate children?
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