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Old 04-12-2018, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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this clip sums it up and this senator speaks the truth.
Deny it all you want, but there is exreme bias against conservatives in social media.
Amazes me how the left is all for free speech.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWUbDipVPGo
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Who reads 200 pages of fine print disclosures?

Zuckerberg and his way of answering, as well the answers made me feel uncomfortable about Facebook!

Why would they own our pictures?

One of my kids posted a picture on Instagram, which is owned by Facebook and later got a message that the picture was used by the company of the doggie bag that was used in which the dog was carried. That was not bad and we actually were excited to see the doggie made it on a website and we didn't care of not getting paid for the picture...BUT what if it was one of our kids who all of sudden is advertised everywhere because a picture of a social media website that you use, gets used by a third party without written approval as in the fine print you already gave that approval without really able to know of who is that third party.

Last week I took over 500 hidden advertisers off my Facebook and who seem to have my info.

I changed my settings so almost everything is off but I bet that Facebook will be going through the backdoor to use other ways to get our info to third parties and make money of that without our knowledge.

It feels actually creepy to walk in a store and getting messages on my phone of advertisement from the store so most of the time I turn my location off but then you need maps and have to turn location on again.
This would be akin to the telephone company claiming they can own the rights to all our conversations. So if we coined a new phrase, or offered a suggestion to fix something, Ma Bell would own it, and then they could profit from it.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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this clip sums it up and this senator speaks the truth.
Deny it all you want, but there is exreme bias against conservatives in social media.
Amazes me how the left is all for free speech.
I would say for great reasons there is a bias against Fascism and Authoritarianism. For one good reason, you should listen to the "father" of the Conservative movement. See video clip (short) below.

For such a charge, even informal, to hold weight you'd have to also claim they are biased against bullies, JIm Jones supporters, a-holes, ingrates or ANY group which might be an outcast to civil society.

Since "conservatives" have made it clear that they DO NOT believe in our system and civil society, they hardly seem like a "side" or a "class" any more.

My guess - in fact, my full knowledge is that I could be as "conservative" as the day is long and I can go on Facebook for years and have not a single post or word censored nor be personally banned.

On the other hand, I could be a flaming liberal and say certain things or post certain pictures and the moderators would jump in.

In a sense, sites like FB are voting machines. Most of what you call "censoring" is due to pictures, posts and people being reported by others...often by numerous others. Normal people want you off the island.

If it were real life, they'd put you on a raft and push you out past the reef.

Be a decent person and you'll have the same experience I have - no post or word has been touched in 10 years.

Here is what conservative is...one of the many "non-civil" things that go against our very core:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Do delete Facebook pages?
Algorithms which look for people using words like "lib" or "prog" and search in those conversations for phrases like "I agree" when used in conjunction with the name Trump.

The above might earn you two strikes. Then if you post a video which is favorable to Trump, or the video is Conservative in nature, guess what.... you just made strike three, and you are out.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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This would be akin to the telephone company claiming they can own the rights to all our conversations. So if we coined a new phrase, or offered a suggestion to fix something, Ma Bell would own it, and then they could profit from it.
Well, I think I can come closer to the actual target here.

This would be like:
?
"You posting a positive comment on a review web site and the company using it for their testimonials".

As far as kids, anyone with 1/2 a brain knows not to post lots of images of their kids online...and.or lots of other information about them. I also don't think such images would be bought and sold, as photographers know they need a release...unless the person is in public.

Am I allowed to take a picture of crowds on the beach and make money from it? Of course. Can I take pictures of other peoples property (a downtown, for example) and make money? Of course I can.

Existing law is very clear and provides the guidelines.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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Algorithms which look for people using words like "lib" or "prog" and search in those conversations for phrases like "I agree" when used in conjunction with the name Trump.

The above might earn you two strikes. Then if you post a video which is favorable to Trump, or the video is Conservative in nature, guess what.... you just made strike three, and you are out.
How does math know whether a video is a spoof or real? In other words, would Alex Baldwin classify as a pro-Trump video??

If "I agree" that Trump is Orange, is that a positive or negative light I have cast?

You are giving examples who are quite soft. Now...I'm sure you can find an anecdote just like Texas school employees paddle a lot of school children who didn't actually do anything. But the real basics here are that you have to do offensive things...you have to do and say things most civil people would never do in real life.

Again, if you don't like to be civil, "get out of my restaurant". The owner decides where the line is.

Same thing right here on C-D and on any decent forum on the interweb. Same thing with any decent company in real life. No normal person would keep hanging around if a "conservative" started spouting much of the nonsense you find on FB.


BTW, if you claim "lib" or "prog" gets you banned, why wouldn't anyone with an IQ over 85 just use liberal? Is it that you want to bully or put-down people (or think you are doing so), and so you use democRAT party instead of Democratic Party? We've had your number for years. It's only your small club that thinks it is getting away with something.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I would say for great reasons there is a bias against Fascism and Authoritarianism. For one good reason, you should listen to the "father" of the Conservative movement. See video clip (short) below.

For such a charge, even informal, to hold weight you'd have to also claim they are biased against bullies, JIm Jones supporters, a-holes, ingrates or ANY group which might be an outcast to civil society.

Since "conservatives" have made it clear that they DO NOT believe in our system and civil society, they hardly seem like a "side" or a "class" any more.

My guess - in fact, my full knowledge is that I could be as "conservative" as the day is long and I can go on Facebook for years and have not a single post or word censored nor be personally banned.

On the other hand, I could be a flaming liberal and say certain things or post certain pictures and the moderators would jump in.

In a sense, sites like FB are voting machines. Most of what you call "censoring" is due to pictures, posts and people being reported by others...often by numerous others. Normal people want you off the island.

If it were real life, they'd put you on a raft and push you out past the reef.

Be a decent person and you'll have the same experience I have - no post or word has been touched in 10 years.

Here is what conservative is...one of the many "non-civil" things that go against our very core:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw
I consider myself a constitutional conservative, and I have never heard of Paul Weyrich, I had to Google him.

According to his wiki page, Paul Weyrich is a just Christian conservative. From some of the things he's said, his is a nut, and not a constitutional conservative.

For example, he thinks Wiccans are satanic. Weyrich wants to strip them of their Constitutional Right to practice religion. and he said no one should join the US Army as long as Wiccans were allowed to serve and practice their religion. These types of people would seek to pass biblical laws, with no care if they trample people's constitutional Rights and freedoms.

The problem is that these Christian bible thumpers distort the Conservative brand, by referring to themselves as "conservative," when all they are, are religious zealots who support instituting policies and legislation that would be unconstitutional.
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Old 04-12-2018, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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How does math know whether a video is a spoof or real? In other words, would Alex Baldwin classify as a pro-Trump video??
People input data into the AI engines which monitor Facebook. If a popular video is political in nature, and it's pro-Trump, it's a simple matter to input the url into the AI, and have it look for people who post it.

If you wanted to block pedophiles, how would you do it? You might look for conversations which pair sexy with phrase little girl, or baby. Or you'd monitor videos by looking at the title or the url or an origination flagged from any from know child porn sites. It's not rocket science.

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If "I agree" that Trump is Orange, is that a positive or negative light I have cast?
Let's say it was the opposite, and Facebook were Trump fans. They might have the AI look for posts using "orange idiot," etc... Or simply look for posts using the words orange, moron, idiot hate, in conjunction with the name Trump. The AI can monitor the word associations you use, and tag you as a certain type of person. It's not rocket science.

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Again, if you don't like to be civil, "get out of my restaurant". The owner decides where the line is.
It does not have to be about being civil or not, if I think speaking positively about Trump is uncivil, or liberal views are harmful, i can tell my AI to look for those nasty people, and monitor more closely what they post, and kick them if they are too liberal for my tender sensibilities.
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Old 04-12-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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Interesting, hmmmm.
how?

use your big girl words !
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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how?

use your big girl words !
Isn't that a bit sexist of you to say?
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