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Old 04-18-2018, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Originally Posted by phma View Post
Sounds normal.
Its often the position of those not in power.
When power changes so do opinions. That is the norm.

Another good example is the last admin.

They were all for transparency until the got into power.
Then they operated in secret as much as possible aided by a lap dog media.
Very true.



Trump was an outsider in 2013 so what did he know about politics beyond what the rest of us know with an educated opinion?

Now that Trump is in the Big Chair there are some things that just have to be done.

We are all "arm chair" quarterbacks on Monday morning but things would be different if we actually had to make decisions.


The political term for this turnaround is to Pivot.

 
Old 04-18-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by It'sAutomatic View Post
At the time he was criticizing Obama. And now, lo and behold, he authorized Syria strikes without Congressional approval.

There you have it: a man who believes everything he could possibly do is justifiable somehow. He has zero moral backbone whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...905408?lang=en
Let's see, Trump was a private citizen in 2013, had no access to classified intelligence and made a statement as he saw it at that time. He was talking as the guy on the street.


Like Obama accusing GWB of treason for the rising deficit.


Like Obama in 2008 saying if HRC was elected she would pass healthcare by nuclear option, something he would never do.


Like Obama was against gay marriage before he 'evolved', needed votes and was for gay marriage.


Like Obama crying to the scotus that to shut down obamacare was to bypass the people's representatives, then he ruled by approving federal regulations which bypassed the people's representatives.


Obama drew a redline and then said it took courage to not follow up. the real story was Kerry made a deal with Syria, Russia being the executor, to get rid of chemical weapons. If Obama acted he would be admitting that the deal he and Kerry made with Putin was a sham and the US was again snookered. Remember when the chemical attack occurred, obamaland kept stalling and stalling to 'be sure' it was a chemical attack. They stalled until the incident was forgotten. Red line, what red line?
 
Old 04-18-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Bush II ran on a policy of non interventionism, Obama stated he was going to end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, so meet the new boss same as the old boss.
Bingo.

Anyone that just stepped back and looked at US foreign policy since 9-11, without being told about presidential turn-over would have a hard time distinguishing that the same guys hadn't been in office the whole time.
 
Old 04-18-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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They are all LIARS. Governments work through propaganda and corruption. People in other countries actually prefer a strong leader with limited democracy to run things; we can see this in the russia, the middle east, and other countries.
In the west people are hypocrites. Proud of their fake democracy and high level of corruption, while preaching to the rest of the world.

I'll leave this here, the first half is about syria and the other half about msm propaganda.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfSrk2HfRN8

Kinda of ironic that to get honest info some of us have to listen to a comedian and some average canadian women.
 
Old 04-24-2018, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Let's see, Trump was a private citizen in 2013, had no access to classified intelligence and made a statement as he saw it at that time. He was talking as the guy on the street.


Like Obama accusing GWB of treason for the rising deficit.


Like Obama in 2008 saying if HRC was elected she would pass healthcare by nuclear option, something he would never do.


Like Obama was against gay marriage before he 'evolved', needed votes and was for gay marriage.


Like Obama crying to the scotus that to shut down obamacare was to bypass the people's representatives, then he ruled by approving federal regulations which bypassed the people's representatives.


Obama drew a redline and then said it took courage to not follow up. the real story was Kerry made a deal with Syria, Russia being the executor, to get rid of chemical weapons. If Obama acted he would be admitting that the deal he and Kerry made with Putin was a sham and the US was again snookered. Remember when the chemical attack occurred, obamaland kept stalling and stalling to 'be sure' it was a chemical attack. They stalled until the incident was forgotten. Red line, what red line?
And lets not forget that Obams actually THREATENED the Supreme court if they dared rule against him. Obummer also said that if Congress didnt do WHAT HE WANTED, that he would simply BYPASS them to do what he wanted. NEVER FORGET.
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