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Old 04-19-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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Only when they pose a serious threat.

 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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And it was all the result of a white guy gun nut that refused to follow instructions from law enforcement. If Koresh and his cult members had just listened to LEO they would still be alive. Weird how the armed white guy gets sympathy for refusing to cooperate with LEO for days but an unarmed 12 year old black child is murdered and labeled a thug for playing with a toy gun in a park with many CD forum posters saying that his death was justified.
Who labeled him a thug? I must have missed that.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The authorities claimed the children were being beaten and sexually abused.
Even though it wasn't true.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...ow-about-waco/
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The authorities claimed the children were being beaten and sexually abused.
Survivors claimed having sex with the cult leader was a condition of getting into heaven.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Easy, she was barricaded inside the house and refused to follow the orders of LEO. In an earlier incident, her son and a family friend had participated in a gunfight with LEO. Vicki Weaver could have come out of that house at anytime with her hands up and surrendered. She is responsible for her own death along with everyone else in that house that thought an armed standoff with LEO was going to end well.
Wow. Never thought I'd see such fascist bootlicking on C-D.

It's justified to murder a woman holding a baby.

Wow.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Shorman is just pointing out that every time a black person is murdered by police, people fall all over themselves saying if only the black person had cooperated, he would not have been shot. Never mind that he wasn't doing anything wrong to start with. You see it over and over again on here.

But when it's David Koresh and his followers, no one ever argues that all Koresh had to do was cooperate with the police and none of it would have happened.

The police act uniformly in both instances--too quick to pull the trigger. It's the reaction that's different. If a black man is shot, it's his fault for not cooperating. If a white religious leader and his followers are killed, it's not his fault for not cooperating--it's the government's fault.

The hypocrisy is real.
Tell that to Daniel Shaver.

Graphic video shows Daniel Shaver sobbing and begging officer for his life before 2016 shooting
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I thought you were talking about agent orange.
That too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/15/o...m-effects.html

https://theconversation.com/agent-or...disaster-84572
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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Even though MOVE was done by Philadelphia police, Reagan was President then.

The murders of many of the Black Panthers happened under Nixon.

Quit trying to make it a partisan issue.
I don't even know what MOVE is.


The Branch Dividians were done in by the Clinton admin.
so blah

I am against government doing terrible things to people. Conservatives generally are.


so in an effort to educate myself, I did some reading just now on MOVE> Mayor of Phily ordered it. He was a democrat. peace out.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Only when they pose a serious threat.
Yeah, right.

There are hundreds of videos showing the exact opposite. The truth is most cops are cowards.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I don't even know what MOVE is.


The Branch Dividians were done in by the Clinton admin.
so blah




I am against government doing terrible things to people. Conservatives generally are.
See post #37.

But here's another link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing
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