Twenty-five years ago today the U.S. gassed its own people. (Congress, FBI)

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by Bill Keegan

The story is that the state was there with a legally issued warrant to arrest Koresh, and that they were fired upon. If that's true, - and while the evidence supports this I don't claim to know for sure - they were criminals, not merely citizens defending their own property.

I was talking about Ruby Ridge.

[FC76-81]

Originally Posted by rebeldor

He's no one's "boy." He was a lunatic.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the U.S. government used chemical weapons--CS gas and methyl chloride--on American citizens.



http://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rig...co-texas-siege

Tear gas.

While you're at it, pepper spray and mace are also chemicals. I hooked o'l girl up with some of my gas agent last night, we had Mexican food yesterday for dinner. Classify that as a chemical weapon too. And they are flammable as well.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

HE JOGGED PAST THE UNDERCOVER HOUSE EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE STANDOFF.

The government had a hard-on for a killing spree...as usual.

Of course they did. The only thing the government is good at is killing people.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by FC76-81

Tear gas.

CS tear gas. A chemical weapon banned in war by treaty and signed by the U.S.

[carterstamp]

Originally Posted by shorman

And it was all the result of a white guy gun nut that refused to follow instructions from law enforcement. If Koresh and his cult members had just listened to LEO they would still be alive. Weird how the armed white guy gets sympathy for refusing to cooperate with LEO for days but an unarmed 12 year old black child is murdered and labeled a thug for playing with a toy gun in a park with many CD forum posters saying that his death was justified.

Koresh wanted to die, and take his cult members with him. ATF was dumb enough to give him what he wanted.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by FC76-81

While you're at it, pepper spray and mace are also chemicals. I hooked o'l girl up with some of my gas agent last night, we had Mexican food yesterday for dinner.

Are mace and pepper spray banned by treaty from being used on the battlefield? Nope.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

Koresh wanted to die, and take his cult members with him. ATF was dumb enough to give him what he wanted.

That's pretty much it.

[FC76-81]

Originally Posted by rebeldor

That's pretty much it.

Actually Bill Clinton and Janet Reno were those on the very top calling the shots. If you're going to blame anyone for another groups bad behavior, blame them.

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by FC76-81

Actually Bill Clinton and Janet Reno were those on the very top calling the shots. If you're going to blame anyone for another groups bad behavior, blame them.

I blame everyone who was involved, just as with all the stupid pointless wars they've gotten us into.

[FC76-81]

Originally Posted by rebeldor

I blame everyone who was involved, just as with all the stupid pointless wars they've gotten us into.

How about the cult itself?