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Old 04-20-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by le roi View Post
if you think "federalism" is some kind of yes/no question, then you don't know what it is and should refrain from using that word.
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Originally Posted by jfre81 View Post
Maybe you can explain to me why this should be an exception to the principle of state sovereignty, since you're going Inigo Montoya on me.
Maybe I asked too much of you.



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Originally Posted by LauraC
Same rules as smoking apply? Not interested in a second-hand high.
Rules at this level should be determined by the states. The Feds' only place in it is where it pertains to interstate commerce and transport.

So if we are applying similar rules as tobacco or alcohol, then it will leave wherever it comes from and be under the authority of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms until it gets its state tax stamp and, from that point on, the state is responsible for its regulation.

 
Old 04-20-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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So, Chucky wants to take away my guns and give me weed... strange.
Not really. You'd be a lot safer owning some cannabis than owing a gun, and so would your relatives, since that is most likely who you would shoot.

You'd also have a better attitude about your fellow man vaping your cannabis instead of cleaning your gun.

Finally, you'd get more use out of the cannabis than you would your gun, unless you're a hunter.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 02:37 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Not really. You'd be a lot safer owning some cannabis than owing a gun, and so would your relatives, since that is most likely who you would shoot.

You'd also have a better attitude about your fellow man vaping your cannabis instead of cleaning your gun.

Finally, you'd get more use out of the cannabis than you would your gun, unless you're a hunter.
What really doesn't make sense is how most conservatives want to keep weed illegal to "protect the children" and "preserve the moral fabric of society" but don't you dare mention any kind of restrictions on guns.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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What really doesn't make sense is how most conservatives want to keep weed illegal to "protect the children" and "preserve the moral fabric of society" but don't you dare mention any kind of restrictions on guns.
Cannabis and guns don't belong in the same discussion in the first place, for what I would think are fairly obvious reasons. Both sides need to get this through their heads.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Interesting.....

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/20/60413...lize-marijuana

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., plans to introduce legislation on Friday to decriminalize marijuana on the federal level, adding a high-profile advocate in the effort to decriminalize, legalize and normalize marijuana use in America.

Schumer's legislation would remove marijuana from the list of scheduled substances under a 1970 law that classifies marijuana as dangerous as heroin for legal and regulatory purposes. It would establish funding for women- and minority-owned marijuana businesses, require more research on the drug's public health impact, and maintain federal authority to regulate commercial advertising, similar to existing regulations for tobacco and alcohol.
He is only doing the right thing because the Democrats are in serious trouble.


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What really doesn't make sense is how most conservatives want to keep weed illegal to "protect the children" and "preserve the moral fabric of society" but don't you dare mention any kind of restrictions on guns.
One has nothing to do with the other. The right need to get off their righteous pedestal and do the right thing, legalize weed and stop this stupid war on citizens by the dumbass elites.

As for guns, the left need to get a clue that they are going to lose this war on weapons. They may win a few battles, but their moderate constituents love their right to bear arms just as much as conservatives. The blatant manipulation of kids to push their political views? They have shot their "blue wave in the political foot" and with all the uncovering of the corruption between the Obama administration, FBI, DoJ, DNC and Clinton campaign... it'll be a dead horse by November.

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Cannabis and guns don't belong in the same discussion.
You have to realize that simple minds make simple connections like that.

Last edited by steven_h; 04-20-2018 at 03:01 PM..
 
Old 04-20-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
Most Independent Fundamental Baptists believe that wine in the Bible, when mentioned in a positive light, is actually referring to non-alcoholic grape juice. They believe that marijuana also falls under the "be ye sober" commandment. Not that this is true, but it's important to realize this to understand the mindset of the people currently running this country.

Nonetheless, I like that more Democrats in congress are starting to push for legalization on a federal level. However, they face an extreme uphill battle thanks to the Christian Right.
A coalition of Ds and sensible Rs could override the prohibitionists.

If the midterms go well for Ds, you could see that happen soon.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jacqueg View Post
It has small chance of being heard as long as Rs control Congress. But - good for him!

Yes, of course it's a political ploy. So what? It will be interesting to see who joins him as sponsors, how hard he and his co-sponsors push it, and how far it gets.
Indeed. Obvs it's a political ploy just like how Republicans kept voting to repeal Obamacare knowing full well it will never happen...the difference this has a chance of passing definitely not now, but will happen eventually...hopefully the next time Democrats have control of Congress.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Interesting.....

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/20/60413...lize-marijuana

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., plans to introduce legislation on Friday to decriminalize marijuana on the federal level, adding a high-profile advocate in the effort to decriminalize, legalize and normalize marijuana use in America.

Schumer's legislation would remove marijuana from the list of scheduled substances under a 1970 law that classifies marijuana as dangerous as heroin for legal and regulatory purposes. It would establish funding for women- and minority-owned marijuana businesses, require more research on the drug's public health impact, and maintain federal authority to regulate commercial advertising, similar to existing regulations for tobacco and alcohol.
If Chuck Schumer did something besides, nothing, resist, browbeat, and of course , that would be wonderful.

The Republicans would be willing to negotiate something I'm sure.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Originally Posted by r small View Post
That preacher reminds me why I'm a heathen.
This preacher is an idiot.

Wine is wine.

PERIOD!

80% to 90% of the people have no problem with wine period end of story. So, 10% to 20% of folks can get just as messed up on wine or beer or booze, if they are so inclined.

Noah was quite a drinker for example. I'd categorize him as shameless potential hard drinker, but probably not full blown alky.

Solomon talked about the problem drinker.

If you're not alky, you should probably not apply worries to something that doesn't affect you.

This guy is just demonstrating the inability to differentiate his feelings and ego from his actual limited intelligence.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Originally Posted by Beaconowner View Post
Not really. You'd be a lot safer owning some cannabis than owing a gun, and so would your relatives, since that is most likely who you would shoot.

You'd also have a better attitude about your fellow man vaping your cannabis instead of cleaning your gun.

Finally, you'd get more use out of the cannabis than you would your gun, unless you're a hunter.
But what do I use to defend my trailer from druggie home invaders? Throw doobies at them?
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