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Old 04-20-2018, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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This is true, but Democrat policies like Sanctuary Cities, and Sanctuary States are solely Democrat polices that embolden MS-13, and help them stay in the U.S. sometimes.
makes perfect sense.....and maybe the reason for so many illegal guns and drugs circulating...
they are being funded somehow? I remember hearing years ago that even the police were afraid of them.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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I'm trying to remember what I heard, that they are using or promoting the dems for taking away of guns, or something?
Without a source, there is no discussion.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Without a source, there is no discussion.
oh, there most certainly is a discussion.....
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm trying to remember what I heard, that they are using or promoting the dems for taking away of guns, or something?
You can't remember it, and you can't find any articles supporting it, and you still think it is true......
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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You can't remember it, and you can't find any articles supporting it, and you still think it is true......
yeah finn, that's why I started this thread, so that perhaps others could fill me in....
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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makes perfect sense.....and maybe the reason for so many illegal guns and drugs circulating...
they are being funded somehow? I remember hearing years ago that even the police were afraid of them.
Is Houston a Democratic city? That's considered the city with the highest concentration of MS-13 gang members.

As we have pointed out many times here -- most of the major city centers in the USA are more Democratic. MS-13 -- while also in suburbs -- would of course, gravitate towards major city centers....not because of being 'Democratic' but just the nature of them being the biggest cities.

As for funding -- that's where the crime comes in. They make money from criminal activity.

Here are a couple of articles. The first puts the criminal activity into perspective. Yes it is a brutally violent gang but in terms of national statistics on crime -- their numbers are still not significant. Doesn't mean we need to ignore them. As the second article shows. Both Bush and Obama , like Trump, were fighting against the gang's presence in the USA.



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...migrants-crime

https://www.foxbusiness.com/features...angs-is-funded
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Is Houston a Democratic city? That's considered the city with the highest concentration of MS-13 gang members.

As we have pointed out many times here -- most of the major city centers in the USA are more Democratic. MS-13 -- while also in suburbs -- would of course, gravitate towards major city centers....not because of being 'Democratic' but just the nature of them being the biggest cities.

As for funding -- that's where the crime comes in. They make money from criminal activity.

Here are a couple of articles. The first puts the criminal activity into perspective. Yes it is a brutally violent gang but in terms of national statistics on crime -- their numbers are still not significant. Doesn't mean we need to ignore them. As the second article shows. Both Bush and Obama , like Trump, were fighting against the gang's presence in the USA.



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...migrants-crime

https://www.foxbusiness.com/features...angs-is-funded

Thank you

do you believe that their membership has anything to do with all the police being shot? I'm wondering if the two tie in together? They never report much on the killers....their background, where they're from, did they belong to any radical groups?
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: IL
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proud democrats
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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La Familia (Mexican Mafia) existed here in the U.S. prior to MS-13 and while a violent gang they were/are not nearly as violent/deadly as MS-13 is but that's not to say or imply that they're not violent or deadly.

MS-13 has exploded in size and territory over the last decade or so especially helped by our porous borders as well as decades long Catch and Release policies.

We as a nation are allowing this cancer to eat us from within...
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Just a simple question. With the proliferation of MS 13 and all the other violent gangs, and the influx of drugs into this country, plus human trafficking, why is the left so opposed to border security and deporting these scumbags?

I don't buy that it's for votes and have a hard time believing it's the bleeding heart mentality of the left. So what's the real reason there is any opposition at all to taking a hard line approach to this problem?
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