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Old 04-22-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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Seriously? So, we should just let the rest of the world develop weapons, gas their people, and conquer their neighbors, some of whom are our allies, blindly thinking that we are "safe" because we have an ocean between us.

Are you familiar with the Muslim Brotherhood's written and published "Plan for North America?"

Do you think that North Korea is no threat to the U.S.? Is Iran not a threat to be concerned about ...oh, wait ...Obama says, "no." He says he made an agreement with them not to build nuclear weapons ...just like Clinton did with North Korea. So, no need to worry. We are safe. And we don't care about all those innocent civilians that are being gassed, many of whom are Christians. Why should we care about them? Right?

You must have forgotten that some of these people hijacked airliners and flew them into the Twin Towers in NYC. But who cares? We don't know why they did it. It was just a random act. Right? Oh, wait ...wrong again. They did it because we interfere in their country. Right. They have no evil intent. Of course not.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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How many times have we heard that it was the Democrats that want free stuff? Looting the Treasury is always a bad idea.
Looting the Treasury? Ever hear of a "Federal Reserve Note?" We have no "treasury," thanks to Democrats.

Besides, tax cuts always result in increased revenue to the Federal government.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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https://gop.com/paycheck-president

Hear the stories of people who are getting bigger paychecks with the tax cuts.

Paid for by the Republican National Committee.


Congrats on being a tool for the Republican Party, Janelle
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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Besides, tax cuts always result in increased revenue to the Federal government.
If someone says the earth is flat, is it worth the time to provide a rebuttal?

I would say no, it is not.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:40 AM
 
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If all the liberals tell them, and ACTUALLY pay more than the lower tax liabilities they have under POTUS Trump, liberals would actually be "walking their walk", instead of just "talking the talk".
That shows a gross misunderstanding of the opposition's basic position on the matter, bob.
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:00 AM
 
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That's nearly $2100/year. Not chump change. An extra $40/week can help a lot. I know I could use an extra $40/week. That would easily cover my wintertime electric bill.

Must be nice that it's nothing to you.
If its that important to you, then you wont be able to pay for the much higher medical bills that wont be covered by tax money anymore. You need to save up all that money you get, not to pay your electric bill, but to pay for $100 000 a year nursing home stay and much higher out of pocket costs for health care in your old age, as Medicaid and Medicare will be slashed to the bone to pay for tax cuts. The GOP has already announced that it is coming.
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Right out of the Democrat "talking points."

In the first place, we didn't have a "healthy economy." 50% of the "labor force" was not employed (but that didn't show in the "unemployment" figures, since they had been dropped off).

Home ownership was a the lowest point since WWII. Companies were leaving the U.S. and moving offshore because of our high corporate tax rate, which was uncompetitive. The Obama administration never saw GDP of 3%. Lowest growth rate in decades.

After Donald Trump was elected, Markets took off. His critics claim that was to Obama's credit. Really? Then why did it happen only right after the election? Why not before? It is a lie, and they know it, but so great is their hatred for Donald Trump, they cannot find it within them to credit him with anything positive, which is why they impugn the tax cuts.
I'm curious as to where you got that unemployment statistic. I realize that the official numbers do not include people who are no longer receiving UE benefits or have given up on trying to find work, but 50%? That is twice as high as during the Great Depression. If unemployment ever reached that level, there would be no way to hide it.
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:20 AM
 
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You must not be in an area where Duke Power supplies.
I'm not a fan of the utility companies having worked in the industry and witnessed tremendous waste, fraud and abuse. They have a poor record particularly with trying to squeeze the costumers on storm cost and their nuclear projects.

On the issue of the tax cuts impact, I don't let views of their past performance color what they are doing now.
This is what is being reported and it conflicts with what you are claiming.

Duke Energy Florida customers will be spared paying more than $500 million in costs related to Hurricane Irma because of the utility’s savings under the new federal tax overhaul, Duke said Wednesday.

Florida Power & Light said its customers would avoid $1.3 billion in Irma costs because of the tax law approved in December by Congress and President Donald Trump.

So both these utilities won't be upping the rates as they had planned.

Who is telling the truth ?

Utilities are typically allowed to recoup storm costs from customers, with the issue addressed in FPL, Duke Energy Florida and Tampa Electric rate agreements that were approved in 2016 and 2017 by the Public Service Commission.

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/...ane-irma-costs
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Handouts are bad, except when a Republican does it.

We'll all need a bigger paycheck for the inflation.

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Its not a handout. They are keeping more of the money they earned. Very different than getting money from the government for doing absolutely nothing.
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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Looting the Treasury? Ever hear of a "Federal Reserve Note?" We have no "treasury," thanks to Democrats.

Besides, tax cuts always result in increased revenue to the Federal government.
Let`s do away with all taxes and the government will flush with cash. Ya think?
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