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No, people have always come to the US from pretty much everywhere. The difference from them to now is this. It used to be that people came to the US to largely to become American. Remember E Pluribus Unum?
Now more often than not, they want to keep their foreign culture, language, etc., not assimilate, but use America to be economically successful. And in many cases they want to impose their culture, religious values, etc. on the rest of us.
For one he was a religious skeptic, he rewrote the Bible to exclude all of the miraculous that he believed were nonsense. He seemed to sit somewhere between a deist and an agnostic. I have yet to know of a republican politician would is openly agnostic.
The right isn't about religion. It's about policy.
Your exact same comment can be said about the left.
One in five Americans is religiously unaffiliated. Yet just one of 535 members of the new Congress is.
religion is one of the more invisible areas where legislators in Washington simply aren't representative of the people they represent.
Only Arizona Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema admits to being "unaffiliated," which Pew defines as people who are atheist, agnostic or who describe their religion as "nothing in particular." That means only 0.2 percent of Congress is unaffiliated, compared with 23 percent of U.S. adults. That group is faster-growing than any religious group in America, as Pew found in 2015.
Then there was the fact he hated the idea of a standing army. He wouldn't be increasing the military budget he would be gutting it. Imagine a right leaning politician who would propose cutting the military budget getting elected, would never happen.
Your exact same comment can be said about the left.
You mean the left, when did they cut the military budget? The left is non interventionist ONLY WHEN A REPUB IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. When a dem is in the White House, expanding our empire which they do, except Carter not so much, the left is silent.
This is what you and others don't get even though it's obvious. There is very little difference between the parties except the hand picked winners and losers.
2012 which candidate am I?
I'm for mandated health care, bailouts, and keeping us involved in never ending wars in the Middle East.
Just replace Italian with Mexican and there you go...
Liberal myth: immigrants to America are interchangeable.
Reality: Italians and other European immigrant groups eventually assimilated and raised their socioeconomic level to the American mean while Mexicans have not.
I'm talking about Trump supporters not Trump. The rest of this post is just nonsense.
Your bigoted statements hold no water and are nonsense. Some of the same people who voted for obama voted for trump. Quit falsely playing the race card to deflect from the fact that you back failure.
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If that is so, then "democrat" is a synonym for anti-White and pro POC racism.
Have any more generalizing logic to share?
Your "Democrat" analogy is absolutely delusional.
Neither party is anti-white. However, I must admit that the GOP tends to exclude people of color from their spectrum of interest.
Only in that sense, can we state the fact that the GOP tends to be racist. Racist by omission or exclusion.
Democrats have welcomed people of color ever since the JFK and LBJ presidencies. The Democrats initiated many civil rights laws in the early 60's. These laws were passed with severe opposition from Goldwater Republicans.
This is all true to some extent. However, for the most part the majority of the groups mentioned are all ethnic from a similar European origin, from which roots of language, religion, and customs are shared.
Languages, religions, and customs possessed by Africans and indigenous Americans bore very little resemblance of anything remotely similar to that originating from Europe.
Therefore, there wasn't much cultural assimilation between Europeans and the indigenous Americans, due to the fact that Europeans viewed their language, religion, customs, and indeed themselves, to be far superior to both that of the indigenous American and the subsaharan African.
In general, people of color (non-whites) where considered to be vastly inferior to Europeans, from the European perspective.
From a similar European origin from which roots of language; religion and customs are shared?
Most European immigrants settled into urban ethnic ghettos in the US and avoided assimilation whenever possible. No need to learn English when your boss in the factory is your third cousin and you do your business within your eyhnic community.
There are 24 recognized languages in Europe right now, most of which are either Germanic or Romantic in origin.
While most were Christian, many did not believe all churches were equal. No shortage of religious tensions between Catholics and Protestants. Then there was the Orthodox variations. As time wore on new churches were form with different interpretations and values.
The Puritans were amongst the first settlers and forbade acknowledgement and celebration of Christmas. Subsequent waves of immigration by people who would not assimilate changed all that.
Anyone who thinks all Europeans embraced the melting pot need to learn some history. About the only thing they had in common was looking down on other ethnic groups.
So:
Interstate Highways
Transcontinental Railroads
Our Air Transportation System
Medicare
Social Security
ADA
Civil Rights
Women's Rights
Universal Suffrage
Weekends off - overtime pay
No Child Labor - No Slave Labor
Minimum Wage
Americans with Disabilities Act
And many many more....all complete and utter failures, eh? If only we could go back to the good ole days....maybe tenements or the dust bowl or the Spanish Flu?
It's gotta be sad for Conservatives...the general record of the 20th century, which most agree was what MAG. In general, we have
Teddy Roosevelt - Liberal and Progressive Policies galore! The Square Deal. Trust Busting and much more.
Then the excesses and corruption of the 20's and Harding (GOP pro-Business)....Teapot Dome, etc..the roaring 20's (bubble)..then Hoover.causing
The Great Depression.......
Then FDR, often rated in the top 3 POTUS, won WWII, and instituted untold progressive policies that made the nation what it is today.
Then Kennedy/LBJ did Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Education rights...and on and on.
GW put us into the Great Recession and wars, etc. will will drive our debt and deficit for decades.....
Then Obama....started us toward reforming health care, won basic human rights for same sex (including serving in the Military)....
Yeah, I know I forgot a lot - can't write a book.
But the truth of the matter is that it is Liberalism and Progressive values that have created the Civil Society. Unfortunately, the Authoritarians among us can't stand equality and being happy so they are trying to drag us down into bigotry and division.
It won't work. It's your dying gasp. Enjoy it while you can .
Liberalism is different than Progressivism.
How did minimum wage work out for blacks? Did they benefit much or were whites hired over them because the unconstitutional law said they had to be paid the same in the private sector? We saw black UE rise and pass white UE during this time.
As far as Harding, you are ignorant on the cause of the cause of the mini depression that HIS POLICIES GOT US OUT OF. He kept government out as spending and taxes were lowered 40 percent over 2 years time and UE went from 12 to 4.
The best part is you mention bubble but refuse to undersatand it was big government that caused it with their, wait for it, easy lending YET AGAIN. Why are you in a discussion when you have blinders on? lol Educate yourself on the concept of easy lending/free money since it's caused most of our horrible economic conditions. Please.
FDR did well as far as the war was concerned, imo. But he was bigot who hated Japanese Americans and presided over the longest and worst economic times in our history and YOU champion him? How many blacks got those jobs during the New Deal? The Cleveland Browns are awesome too right? lol
GW didn't put us into the Great Recession, that's another thing you've gotten wrong. Progressivism in congress with their bypassing the free market to manipulate the housing industry using, yet again, Easy Lending. Are you getting it yet?
Child Labor? ...sigh You're well meaning but ignorant on the subject. But it's for the children. I get it. Educate yourself on the percentage of non farm children in the work place when that Federal Law was passed in 1938. Granted maybe there was a huge increase from 1930 to 1938? By 1930, only 6.4 percent of kids between the ages of 10 and 15 were actually employed, and 3 out of 4 of those were in agriculture. The free market taught us adults are the better deal. They are more efficient.
But hip hip hurray for Child Labor Laws right?
You want to help people. I get it. How about you use your own money for your causes and quit voting to steal mine? Medicaid/Medicare? You want to help people right? The cost of health care went up and the quality went down when we passed laws to create them.
1. Cost is less of a competitive factor since prices are set in some instances, so efficiency/quality go down. That happens when you have less competition.
2. Basic economics, which you ignore at times, tells us when demand increases and supply doesn't, prices go up and efficiency goes down. Longer waiting times. Which we've seen. The big government you love decided to make hospitals ask permission and get government okay before they were built. The ones already in place helped pass that little bill because they didn't want competition. Be careful what you ask for.
And this is probably the worst part of all. You mention things which you believe are something we need. That you believe are helpful. Except you don't recognize or maybe I should say don't care that aren't doing a good job. AND you fail to recognize it was the big government you love that caused the problems in the first place and now they over reach the other way. All of these problems were caused by big government.
Civil Rights
Women's Rights
Universal Suffrage
Which entity was causing the problems here? Wasn't me. Wasn't the conservative mantra of getting government out of our lives. The very same entity that crushes us, you want them to be in charge? Why?
The government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take it away.
We had schools, roads, bridges, been in a bunch of wars and didn't loose any before 1913 which was when the progressives stepped up their control. I don't get why you want more ofthe same failures?
Granted you're in a discussion with one of the few people who call out the slave holding founders as sleazy. We replaced British tyranny with our own tyranny.
They had a great idea, too bad not enough people held them accountable. Probably because many if we the people couldn't read. "It's good for you, just sign here. I wouldn't mislead you." That was their excuse. What's yours?
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Neither party is anti-white. However, I must admit that the GOP tends to exclude people of color from their spectrum of interest.
Only in that sense, can we state the fact that the GOP tends to be racist. Racist by omission or exclusion.
Democrats have welcomed people of color ever since the JFK and LBJ presidencies. The Democrats initiated many civil rights laws in the early 60's. These laws were passed with severe opposition from Goldwater Republicans.
What policies does the GOP have that is racist or exclusionary? I really want to know because this has been repeated but no one can back it up.
If a policy or an individual is racist, I'll help fight it. You can't say a person is racist and therefore an entire segment of the population or that industry is racist. It doesn't hold water.
Most black people were slaves and considered barely human.
Same deal with “ orientals”.
Forget about Native Americans.
The Irish tended to be indentured servants. The color of their skin enabled them to have an easier go of it, over time.
Group wise, how come the Irish aren't nearly as successful as Jews?
Tons of Jews settle in the south originally?
A recent NORC Social Survey of white adults born after World War II showed that in the years 1980-2000, only 18.4% of white Baptists and 21.8% of Irish Protestants—the principal ethnic group that settled the South—had obtained college degrees, compared to a national average of 30.1%, a Jewish average of 73.3%, and an average among those of Chinese and Indian descent of 61.9%.
In 1974, a National Opinion Research Center (NORC) study of white ethnic groups showed that white Baptists nationwide averaged only 10.7 years of education, a level almost identical to blacks' average of 10.6 years, and well below that of most other white groups.
The old South was a three-tiered society, with blacks and hard-put whites both dominated by white elites who manipulated racial tensions in order to retain power.
Of the South's 1.8 million sharecroppers, 1.2 million were white (a mirror of the population, which was 71% white). The illiteracy rate was five times that of the North-Central states and more than twice that of New England and the Middle Atlantic (despite the waves of European immigrants then flowing to those regions). The total endowments of all the colleges and universities in the South were less than the endowments of Harvard and Yale alone. The average schoolchild in the South had $25 a year spent on his or her education, compared to $141 for children in New York.
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