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State law has no bearing on the school's dress code.
All the rhetoric about "rights" is pointless since most school aged kids aren't old enough to have all the rights of an adult.
There's no hope of him winning this lawsuit.
I don't remember there being an age requirement for anything other than elected office.
Who took it upon themselves to alter the Constitution and require a selective one size fits all age requirement to have your rights as a person? A Constitutional amendment would be required, to add additional language to the constitutional rights.Or it is unconstitutional, no matter what 9 people, with differing opinions among themselves think.
An under 18 year old does NOT have Constitutional rights in regard the 1st and 2nd amendments when it comes to guns BUT HAS Constitutional rights when it come to abortion.
"If you're under 18, you may or may not have to tell a parent in order to get an abortion — it all depends on the laws where you live. "
The Supreme Court ruling has been posted and like it or not the court has restricted the rights of students here. I'm not a fan of that either but I'm also not a fan of ignoring facts.
I don't remember there being an age requirement for anything other than elected office.
Who took it upon themselves to alter the Constitution and require a selective one size fits all age requirement to have your rights as a person? A Constitutional amendment would be required, to add additional language to the constitutional rights.Or it is unconstitutional, no matter what 9 people, with differing opinions among themselves think.
Regardless of what you can "remember", those under 18 are considered "minors" under the law and they do not have all the rights of an adult.
They have even fewer "rights" when in school when it comes to what they can say or wear.
The district claims "The requirements are in no way an attempt to silence free expression..."
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Originally Posted by Bear Foot
They have even fewer "rights" when in school when it comes to what they can say or wear.
That is generally true, however the WCSD in general, and Kendyl Depoali Middle School dress code specifically, says they chose to allow students a degree of freedom of expression -- the school can choose to not allow any message T-Shirts at all, but if they do allow them (as Kendyl Depoali Middle School does), the school must be content neutral, especially with regard to political speech where it is permitted (see Policy 1310, below)
This new lawsuit, Guardanapo v. Washoe County School District et al specifically cites the district's Policy 5101 (plaintext version is oddly missing from the Washoe County schools website):
Nothing in this policy shall be construed to restrict or ban a student’s First Amendment Right to Free Speech, to include wearing of clothing and/or accessories related to a political stance, with the exception of unprotected speech.
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Reason: Nothing in this policy shall be construed to restrict or ban a student’s First Amendment Right to Free Speech
The Supreme Court ruling has been posted and like it or not the court has restricted the rights of students here. I'm not a fan of that either but I'm also not a fan of ignoring facts.
"The Supreme Court ruling has been posted and like it or not the court has restricted the rights of students here"
I'd bet 100% of the people of America have NOT agreed with EVERY decision by the SC.
Later courts have overruled earlier courts MANY times.
They are NOT infallible.
It is NOT wrong to Think a newer court would over rule this decision.
"The Supreme Court ruling has been posted and like it or not the court has restricted the rights of students here"
I'd bet 100% of the people of America have NOT agreed with EVERY decision by the SC.
Later courts have overruled earlier courts MANY times.
They are NOT infallible.
It is NOT wrong to Think a newer court would over rule this decision.
What would you say about it then?
I would say that was the ruling. As I noted more than once, I don't really agree with the ruling. I support giving students a voice as long as it doesn't directly interfere with other students education.
As I noted more than once, I don't really agree with the ruling. I support giving students a voice as long as it doesn't directly interfere with other students education.
That's actually accounted for in this new lawsuit (Guardanapo v. Washoe County School District et al).
Kendyl Depoali Middle School dress code states that the school has chosen to allow students freedom of expression (Policy 5101), even allowing political political speech (Policy 1310), but has decided that Guardanapo doesn't deserve a voice -- they don't claim that his choice of shirt is disruptive or otherwise interferes with other students education, just that it doesn't match up with the teachers and administrators anti-gun political slant.
I wonder how life is going to work out for this entitled kid later in life.
What happens when he wants to wear a "political" to work to exercise his First Amendment rights and gets told to go home and change into something more appropriate, or gets fired? Unless he works at a gun shop, which may be his plan- who knows?
Or even if he works for himself, how he'll feel when he wears something inappropriate and loses a big job to a competitor who doesn't want to be proselytized to, and his potential client choses to go with someone who acts a little more professional? Unless he owns a gun shop, which may be his plan- who knows?
But...but...my parents and I made a federal case out of this when I was just a young boy, so I though this means I could just do whatever I want as long as it's legal. No, young lad, I am afraid there are consequences to doing whatever you want.
People need to realize that some things are simply disrespectful and inappropriate and shouldn't be done, rather than making a federal case out everything. I sure hope the taxpayers aren't on the hook for court costs involved with this.
This is aside from the other legal issues being debated here and the question of why he would feel the need to wear such a shirt to begin with (unless it wasn't just to stir things up for the sake of doing it).
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The district claims "The requirements are in no way an attempt to silence free expression..."
The school's dress code allows freedom of expression -- unless your politics don't match teacher's slant
No, young lad, I am afraid there are consequences to doing whatever you want. 
