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Old 06-03-2018, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Tariffs on imported steel/aluminum will cause the price of domestic steel to increase considerably so manufacturing in the US won’t be profitable. Shutting down auto plants makes sense.
That steel tariff adds $10 to the monthly lease payments, if that. Nobody cares.
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Old 06-03-2018, 06:57 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Here is a link, I’ve read others also. The Europeans are planning on doing the same thing - targeting battleground districts and Red States. I wonder who is helping them pick this odd list for tariffs?


Inflatable boats, felt pens and beer kegs: Here’s what Canada targeted with tariffs, and why | National Post

Oh boy, time to wave the White flag. Canada have our jobs & industry.
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Old 06-03-2018, 06:58 AM
 
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https://qz.com/1222922/trumps-steel-...num-producers/

Even aluminum producers don’t want Trump’s aluminum tariff


Heidi Brock, president and CEO of the Aluminum Association, shares a common goal with Trump: a thriving US aluminum industry. She’s worried his proposal lets the real culprit off the hook—China.

In its current form, Trump’s proposed 10% tariff on imported aluminum would apply equally to all countries. America imports 90% of the aluminum (paywall) it uses. Canada is the top exporter to the US, followed by Russia.

The authors of the letter believe Trump should target China’s massive aluminum overcapacity, which has flushed the market with cheap materials, instead of penalizing the industry’s North American and European trade partners. As it stands, China is the US’ fourth-largest source for foreign aluminum.
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Old 06-03-2018, 06:59 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You can't honestly be afraid of a trade war with Canada?

Spoiler Alert: We win.
Um... yeah...
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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If Canada doesn't want to be reasonable or fair, then we'll just produce our own steel & be a much stronger nation for it.

Linked below is what's happened in the US steel industry over the past year. You can believe there will be many more to come. Just as multinational corporations bought old Canadian steel mills & got them operating in order to sell steel to the US, now they'll buy old US steel mills and get them operating in order to sell steel to the US.

Steel plant reopening in McKeesport, Pennsylvania
Company restarting U.S. Steel McKeesport mill says workers needed | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Steel plant reopening in Granite City, Illinois
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ffs/403064002/

US Steel and Kobe Steel announce $400M joint venture to build new steel plant in Leipsic, Ohio
https://www.reliableplant.com/Read/2...t-venture-Ohio

Steel plant reopening in Lorain, Ohio
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300611216.html

Steel plant in Houston, Texas planning $500M expansion
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/a...for-u-s-steel/

$240M investment in new Rebar Mill in Frostproof, Florida
https://www.steel-technology.com/pro...ill-in-florida

$180M expansion of Bourbonnais, Illinois steel plant announced
Nucor announces $180 million expansion of Bourbonnais steel plant - Chicago Tribune

Steel Dynamics announces $75M expansion of Columbia, Indiana plant
Steel Dynamics Plans $75M Columbia City Investment - Inside INdiana Business

NUCOR commits $176M investment to expand Ghent, Ky. mill
https://www.scrapmonster.com/news/nu...y-mill/1/65153

$85M investment committed to expand Bar Mill in Marion, Oh.
https://www.steel-technology.com/pro...e-rolling-mill

Charter Steel plans to build $150M Special Bar Quality Mill in Cuyahoga Heights, Oh.
https://www.steel-technology.com/pro...d-new-bar-mill

Steel Dynamics to invest $28M to expand Roanoke, Va. facility.
Steel Dynamics to invest $28 million in Roanoke facility
How is Canada not being fair when the USA imposes tariffs on imports -- so then Canada imposes tariffs to offset those tariffs?

It sounds to me like all Canada is doing is being really fair.
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:01 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Oh boy, time to wave the White flag. Canada have our jobs & industry.
IK,R? Are people really that stupid?
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Isn't the better question why the US imports 90% of it s aluminum? Where is Alcoa?
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:03 AM
 
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Consumers pay more -- that's what happens -- how do we 'win' with that.
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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Consumers pay more -- that's what happens -- how do we 'win' with that.
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Consumers pay more -- that's what happens -- how do we 'win' with that.
Funny thing, when fast food restaurants raise their starting wage to $17 an hour everybody nobody worries about higher food prices but now that Trump is tacking a few cents to the price of aluminum, CNN dispatches their crack team to investigate the impact on the price of beer.
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