Happy birthday Karl Marx, You are the Greatest Human being to ever live (employment, Jesus)

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

Which would mean humans are born slaves.

There is nothing natural about free market manipulation and ownership of property you are not using.

This capitalism you envision is a modern day invention, not something from the Celtic age.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

letting someone torture you is not selling your labor.

If you want someone to torture you, go ahead, no one is going to stop you.

Sure it is.

Part of the torture is them having me run on a treadmill non-stop to generate electricity for them.

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

Is that a yes or no?

No.

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

Sure it is.

Part of the torture is them having me run on a treadmill non-stop to generate electricity for them.

Do it. You can give up your labor for the gain of someone else.

But it is not part of the economy, you can't sell it for a definite or indefinite period of time.


Farm on land and give all the crops to the other person. That is you choosing to give your labor to someone else on a single occasion. But there can be no contract that bounds you to such working arrangements.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

No no no no no no.

Giving your labor to another outsizes that other persons abilities giving them an undue amount of power.

If person a wants to give all their labor to another person, fine, but they have to give it in a case by case scenario.

I'm fine with giving someone more power - it's called freedom.

What exactly do you mean by case by case scenario?

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Joe90

I'm fine with giving someone more power - it's called freedom.

What exactly do you mean by case by case scenario?

The syndicate decides. Or in our case, Winterfall will decide and tell us.

That's why I'm asking examples.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

There is nothing natural about free market manipulation and ownership of property you are not using.

This capitalism you envision is a modern day invention, not something from the Celtic age.

Private property is in use. It's called mixing your labor with it or homesteading.

Capitalism is the free exchange of goods and services between consenting parties. That's it. Always has been and always will be.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

No.

So if I can't form a contract with someone how do I communicate with them?

You know a contract is just an agreement between two parties, right?

[BornintheSprings]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

Capitalism is the free exchange of goods and services between consenting parties.

Do believe that capitalism is the perfect system?

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

Do it. You can give up your labor for the gain of someone else.

But it is not part of the economy, you can't sell it for a definite or indefinite period of time.


Farm on land and give all the crops to the other person. That is you choosing to give your labor to someone else on a single occasion. But there can be no contract that bounds you to such working arrangements.

We're back to pretend play where people really aren't working for others but they actually are.

Good lord.