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Apparently it's all good as long as it doesn't interfere with the laissez-faire absolutist property-rights regime you got going there. In AnCapistan I mean.
oh complaining about a strawman of laissez-faire
you sound just like Mussolini, hitler, stalin, lennin
The reason people starve in capitalism despite the fact that we have the resources available to feed everyone is because workers are not allowed to produce for themselves.
Base needs (food, water, shelter) are produced for profit rather than by the needs of the population. Once your economy runs on a for profit model resources are depleted for growth when none is needed or desired or maintainable.
If you want to produce your own food, water and shelter and go off the capitalist grid, what's stopping you? Go out and grow crops, dig a well, build a cabin to live in and enjoy.
If you want to produce your own food, water and shelter and go off the capitalist grid, what's stopping you? Go out and grow crops, dig a well, build a cabin to live in and enjoy.
and that makes sense....
but what he is pushing ...communism... it wont be his crops, it wont be his well, it wont be his cabin, and he wont enjoy the slavery of the commune
Marx: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
The means of production are public so if a worker needs to produce something they can without having to worry about the cost/profit margin.
The problem, as of course has likely been pointed out to you, and you have ignored it, is motivation. It is human nature to want things. It is also human nature to want to work as little as possible. If you simply provide everything someone needs (to each according to his needs), then why would that person want to work? If I can just engage in leisure activities while society made sure I have a house, food, clothing, etc., why should I go to work? If that logic holds for me, it also holds for my neighbors. If nobody is going to work, where is all this food, clothing, shelter etc., that society is to provide everyone going to come from?
People need a motivation to work, and even moreso a motivation to do work in excess of the minimum requirement. Money provides such a motivation in a capitalist economy. Of course, capitalism is flawed; it's hard to see how ANY economic system could be developed without flaws. However, that does not mean that communism, Marxism, socialism, or any of the other flavors of government-controlled economics are the answer.
He was right too. His theories on big government control leading to oppressive private industry were correct (as seen in Nazi Germany).
His prediction of globalization was correct. He gave the working class and leftist a path forward. Rather than bowing his head to the elite he offered a power up structure where no one had the right to another persons labor.
He inspired real socialists in Chiapas to give rights and power back to the indigenous population. He inspired MLK to fight for social and economic justice for all of the downtrodden in America.
His work brought forth workers cooperatives like Mondragon, Kantega, and dozens in the Midwest to life letting people work for themselves for the first time in history.
Some accuse Marxism of death but all those deaths would need to be multipled 10 fold to even begin to compare to what Capitalism has brought.
The USSR and the rest would have Made Marx roll over in his grave, he didn’t look towards authoritarianism but towards the Paris communes (which were not as reported in the American press). Feminism, racial equality, they all started with Marx.
In Catalonia the syndicalists established a Marxist society offering true freedom to its people and control over their own labor uniting millions voluntarily.
In the United States social security, Medicare, medicade, and all the public institutions that we have and the benefits (weekend work week) that come with them are of Marxian thought. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain
Building more than prosperity it built harmony. Taking from ancient cultures like Taoism to Zoroastrianism to Buddhism, Marx brought the power back into the hands of the individual and formed a world where masters are not needed to control the labor.
For Freedom, for egalitarianism, and for securing our Earth I salute you good sir. In this country there are still Many who want Capitalism and state authority to proceed all else, but these people are in the minority more and more.
Here, things are changing: This Rust-Belt Town.
Towns betrayed by both the state and the private industry are returning power into their own hands. RISE UP people, there is a new dawn for this country and for the world over. Money is not earned from owning stocks or businesses, it is earned from production, and the helping of one man to another.
To see the morning
Look above the horizon
See the oceans crashing far and wide
And never doubt that of what you see is but a reflection of the past
For the future, no matter how far, is on the horizon
In the 20s the Middle East gave rise to socialist leaders from Nasser, Ataturk, Reza Shah, Faisal of Iraq, etc. all who brought reform. None on the backs of free market fantasies brought forth by Austrian economist with the only care for power at the base of their thought.
But together we are united. All of us in our communities, in our families, or here in CD. If we have the will for freedom as Marx called for then we can do the impossible.
Both in peace and war people have struggled and yet one man has inspired the most downtrodden. May his 200th usher in an era of peace and harmony from east to west. ��
The problem, as of course has likely been pointed out to you, and you have ignored it, is motivation. It is human nature to want things. It is also human nature to want to work as little as possible. If you simply provide everything someone needs (to each according to his needs), then why would that person want to work? If I can just engage in leisure activities while society made sure I have a house, food, clothing, etc., why should I go to work? If that logic holds for me, it also holds for my neighbors. If nobody is going to work, where is all this food, clothing, shelter etc., that society is to provide everyone going to come from?
People need a motivation to work, and even moreso a motivation to do work in excess of the minimum requirement. Money provides such a motivation in a capitalist economy. Of course, capitalism is flawed; it's hard to see how ANY economic system could be developed without flaws. However, that does not mean that communism, Marxism, socialism, or any of the other flavors of government-controlled economics are the answer.
Human nature changes depending on environment. Capitalism foments greed.
You can see what happened in Catalonia when the economy was built for stability rather than profit.
but what he is pushing ...communism... it wont be his crops, it wont be his well, it wont be his cabin, and he wont enjoy the slavery of the commune
Greed comes from a want to control.
Having efficient shelter and food as the basis for happiness without excess materialism. Your mindset is the result of years of capitalist thought indoctrination.
Real freedom as seen in anarcho-syndicalism and real socialism give workers the freedom to produce and leave on their own means, not by the means of a corporate overlord who poisons the ground water for excess crop yield.
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