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Dear God, do you understand you're the only one saying that?
Your statement is absurd. The discussion is about what causes these kids to do what they do. I just presented a fact. A well known point that educated people who seek the truth fully understand.
Again, one parent. And like my statement said it isn't about one example or you, it's about the facts. Why anyone in their right mind would think 1 parent can raise a child when often enough 2 parents isn't enough, is beyond me. The lack of thought process, the childish emotion, and the inability to seek the truth get in the way for some.
What's absurd is to hold up single parenthood due to deadbeat dads as an explanation for what happened. Cruz's father died unexpectedly when Nikolas was very young. He was not left to fend for himself by a deadbeat dad or a mother who deliberately dove into parenthood planning to do it all on her own. Nikolas was adopted and sadly lost both of his parents way too soon.
As someone that was put on psychotropic drugs as a teen, I can attest that they change you permanently.
Eric Harris had briefly taken Luvox at some point in his adolescence but was not taking it at the time of the shooting and appeared to be doing well, although clearly that was not the case. Dylan Klebold had never taken any psych drugs of any kind and the drug screen performed at the time of his autopsy was clean.
What's absurd is to hold up single parenthood due to deadbeat dads as an explanation for what happened.
What's absurd is your inability to have a thought process and focus on what is important.
Again - The discussion is about what causes these kids to do what they do. Is that too much for you to wrap your head around?
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Cruz's father died unexpectedly when Nikolas was very young. He was not left to fend for himself by a deadbeat dad or a mother who deliberately dove into parenthood planning to do it all on her own.
No ones saying that but you. That's twice you made something up instead of addressing what I posted. Twice.
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Nikolas was adopted and sadly lost both of his parents way too soon.
What's absurd is your inability to have a thought process and focus on what is important. Again - The discussion is about what causes these kids to do what they do. Is that too much for you to wrap your head around?
No ones saying that but you.
And? So?
Look again. The OP's question was: Nikholas [sic] Cruz: what made him snap? The thread is about Cruz not about "these kids." The OP was very specific in making the thread about Cruz. You've broadened the discussion inappropriately.
Look again. The OP's question was: Nikholas [sic] Cruz: what made him snap? The thread is about Cruz not about "these kids." The OP was very specific in making the thread about Cruz. You've broadened the discussion inappropriately.
The OPs post was broad and he gave examples of what he's seen. He even later posted about mass shooters.
Do you want to chat about 1 single solitary example instead of looking at the reasons why the plethora of shootings and other violence happens from school kids?
All that said, Cruz did not have two parents to raise him. It would have been better if he did. From a young age he had 1 parent. He fits the profile of being raised by 1 parent.
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He was a problem child since he was about 4 or 5, unknown if he was a problem before then either. No telling what his life was like before he was adopted. Before he'd been adopted, he could have been severely beaten, sexually abused, or a crack baby, for all that anyone on here would know.
Eric Harris had briefly taken Luvox at some point in his adolescence but was not taking it at the time of the shooting and appeared to be doing well, although clearly that was not the case. Dylan Klebold had never taken any psych drugs of any kind and the drug screen performed at the time of his autopsy was clean.
Fist off, Columbine had a different element because there were two shooters. Eric Harris was the mastermind of the entire massacre. Klebold was the follower.
Harris was using a generic version of Luvox at the time of the shooting. There is a report that of a friend of Klebold witnessed him taking both Paxil and Zoloft on different occasions, but Klebold’s medical records remain sealed to this day. Both kids had a history of depression and violent mood swings.
As far as bullying goes, that was not what provoked them to plan the massacre. The shooting was retaliation for being arrested over stealing electronics from a van. It's almost unbelievable when you think about it. These kids were crazy as hell which was bolstered by mind altering drugs.
Do some research on Columbine. After 20 years, the details are vastly different than what we were told by the media originally.
Oh please This is not about religion. Why do we need antidepressants, anti anxiety medication among many other medications. Why is the suicide rate so high among teens now. I think it has to do with changes in our environment and changes in the foods we eat.
Your post is spot on. It definitely is the food, and those prescription drugs they put us on do nothing to help the problem, they just make us addicted to other synthetic man-made materials which were never meant to be taken into the human body. It's a vicious cycle. Of course, we all know, there's no money to made with the cure for a disease or disorder. The real money is in long-term treatment of disorders.
Your post is spot on. It definitely is the food, and those prescription drugs they put us on do nothing to help the problem, they just make us addicted to other synthetic man-made materials which were never meant to be taken into the human body. It's a vicious cycle. Of course, we all know, there's no money to made with the cure for a disease or disorder. The real money is in long-term treatment of disorders.
It slowly changes one over time. Quite a few people have said they felt better or became a better person just by changing their diet. Exercise helps of course but their mental demeaner is what changed.
Fist off, Columbine had a different element because there were two shooters. Eric Harris was the mastermind of the entire massacre. Klebold was the follower.
Harris was using a generic version of Luvox at the time of the shooting. There is a report that of a friend of Klebold witnessed him taking both Paxil and Zoloft on different occasions, but Klebold’s medical records remain sealed to this day. Both kids had a history of depression and violent mood swings.
As far as bullying goes, that was not what provoked them to plan the massacre. The shooting was retaliation for being arrested over stealing electronics from a van. It's almost unbelievable when you think about it. These kids were crazy as hell which was bolstered by mind altering drugs.
Do some research on Columbine. After 20 years, the details are vastly different than what we were told by the media originally.
You are correct about Eric. I misstated. His blood screen was positive for Fluvoxamine. Dylan's blood and urine screen were negative.
I live in the south suburbs of Denver. My FIL worked with Eric's father for many years both before and after the massacre, and it would be an understatement to say that the families were never the same. How could they be? They suffered an unfathomable loss compounded by the knowledge that their children were the perpetrators of a horrific act of violence.
My city has been through the wringer with gun violence. As if Columbine were not enough, we also have the Century 16 theater shooting, Bailey High School, and Arapahoe High School. And on top of that, our own family physician was killed just a few streets over in an act of domestic violence involving a neighbor. (He was killed while coming to the aid of his murderer's wife.) It's almost beyond my comprehension.
I wish I understood what brings people to the point of believing that murder is the answer to emotional struggles. It's an act of faith to let any of my children leave my sight, and they're all either grown or nearly grown, so it's not like I can really protect them. The day of the Marjorie-Stoneman shooting, my youngest son thought I had lost my mind when I broke down upon his return from school. I was just so grateful that he was home safe.
There are no words to describe the horror of events like the one today and it's more horrible still to know that it won't be the last time. How I wish this could be the last time.
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This is not about religion. Why do we need antidepressants, anti anxiety medication among many other medications. Why is the suicide rate so high among teens now. I think it has to do with changes in our environment and changes in the foods we eat.
