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Originally Posted by jm1982
There you go again adding insult to injury .
Inefficient ? So I guess they should all just automate right? Although too bad they can’t afford to .. unlike the big chains ..
So you just said that you are fine with small business eliminated and you are ok with the big multinational chains with huge CEO pay to thrive and take all that market share .
Good job !
There is a workable solution that doesn't involve paying workers so little that they can't afford to buy anything after rent, food and transportation; there has to be
Inefficient ? So I guess they should all just automate right? Although too bad they can’t afford to .. unlike the big chains ..
So you just said that you are fine with small business eliminated and you are ok with the big multinational chains with huge CEO pay to thrive and take all that market share .
Good job !
Plenty of small businesses in countries with much stronger workers rights. Dont believe their lies.
Restaurant owners want the customers to pay for their employees. Of course, they will also charge you twice what a bottle of wine costs for one glass of it, so they will make their profits.
European restaurants seem to manage by paying decent wages and tipping is optional. They have survived. Our restaurant system is ridiculous--and most people not only tip on the food costs, they tip on the sales tax!
NYC has thrived for years and years, and people who can afford to live and eat there will. If the restaurant owners don't want to pay living wages, they should find a new business to own. Waiting tables is not an easy job at all. People should be paid a living wage by the employers, not the consumers.
Yeah exactly, it is amazing how other countries can do it without having slave labor.
Slave labor. Because that is essentially what we are talking about. People who are arguing for paying people $5, $6 or $7 dollars an hour and btw without benefits (because businesses always find a way to have workers work one or two hours less than full time) are taking advantage other people for what is really legalized slave labor.
I suggest the OP try to live on $7.50 an hour when a gallon of milk cost almost $4 and a loaf of bread is $2 to $3 and see how he likes it.
No it wont. No minimum wage means America becomes very attractive for third world slave like labor as they are allowed to create all sorts of meaningless drudgery jobs for terrible pay in slum like conditions. Strong unions with real power and a high minimum wage makes the labor market more fair for ordinary American workers.
Supply and demand cant work when the ruling class control the capital. They are highly organized unlike workers.
BS. There is a surplus of uneducated, minimum wage workers. That's why wages are so low.
If we got rid of the illegals, there would be 10 million job openings, and supply and demand dictates that Americans working those jobs will be in demand.
Where I live (no illegals) I can't hire a baby sitter for less than 3x min wage, why do you think that is?
We can be more like America under Franklin D Roosevelt, the most popular president in the last 100 years, as he advocated for strong workers' rights, healthcare for all and a living wage for all workers. That would be a start. If workers rights mean that we "give up capitalism" and submissive underpaid workers mean we have a capitalist paradise, then I'm all for giving up.
Slave wages? No one is forced to take a job and if a business cant find help at a lower wage they have effectively punished themselves. Min wage laws destroy jobs and opportunity.
Too bad for you how your point doesn't work out that way in real life. How so? In Colorado, the min. wage is $9.50 an hour with a 3% unemployment rate. In Oklahoma, the unemployment rate is 4% with a min. wage of $7.25 an hour. Or another way of looking at it. In San Franciso the unemployment rate is 2.3% with $14 min. wage, while in Jackson, MS, the unemployment rate is 4.4% with min. wage of $7.25.
Oh speaking of European countries that the left fantasizes about ..
Ever bothered to check their unemployment rates ?
In Spain over 16 percent!
In Italy it’s 11%
In France it’s 8.9%
For reference in America ours just hit 3.9 %
Hmmm wonder if them high min wages and anti business attitude has anything to do with it .
I guess we’ll just need to ramp up our welfare programs then right ? No biggie !
Those countries have lower minimum wages than America and a lot of corruption. Spain was even a developing country and a dictatorship a few decades ago. Its like pointing to the "Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" and telling people that "see, democracy sucks".
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