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Old 05-05-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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So people should stay poor as renters because they don’t want to do maintenance?


Renting should be temporary .. like working for min wage

Homeowners worth 44x renters ..

https://www.keepingcurrentmatters.co...-than-renters/


This is not always true.


Investing in the S&P 500 has consistently returned better results than homeownership.


That being said there are persons in NYC and elsewhere that are comfortable to very well off that have chosen to rent their entire lives.


Long as people are investing and saving for old age/retirement that is the main issue. Since for most Americans their home represents their future "piggy bank", there you are.
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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A good article written by an NYC business owner . He breaks it down in the articles why the hikes are so bad.


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Minimum wage kills. Not actual people, but it kills jobs. I own Lagmitz Paper & Plastic Co., LLC, a business I started out of my parents' basement in Brooklyn over 37 years ago. Every year, running the business becomes more difficult, and something needs to give.
New business regulations keep getting piled on us by Mayor de Blasio and the City Council. Payroll taxes increase. And, most punishing of all for our bottom line, the minimum wage keeps going up, thanks mostly to Gov. Cuomo.

I can
You constantly rant about the large numbers of homeless but you seem unable to understand that many people are homeless because they have been priced out of the housing market.

In New York City

"From 2010 to 2017, New York City rents rose twice as fast as wages. Asking rents increased by 3.9 percent annually, while median wages rose 1.8 percent per year over the same period. The city’s lowest earners saw the least amount of wage growth, while the lowest bracket of rents increased the most (4.9 percent annually) since 2010. Increases in asking rents far outpaced the 1.2 percent annual increase in the cost of other goods. Rents for upscale units in San Francisco, Seattle and Los Angeles grew at faster paces over the period than New York." https://streeteasy.com/blog/nyc-rent...dability-2017/


And it's far worse in LA and San Francisco but that is not the topic here so I won't expand on it, but seriously your heart bleeds for Applebees but where is your empathy for families who are priced out of their home or apartment and forced to sleep in their car or in a shelter?
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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They can split a one bedroom with two roommates if they got paid $15/hour. That wouldn't be possible if they were paid say the $3/hr that you guys think is "market rate"
Occupancy laws/housing codes most likely wouldn't allow that to begin with.

Otherwise you'd have 10 people living in a studio or a one bed or a two bed. All over the city.

Who said minimum wage should be $3/hour or is "market rate"?
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I am so sick of these kinds of posts when the responder flips his gums and never bothers to see if what he says is valid - again - assuming rather than doing a google search so you don't look foolish... People wonder why no one ever reads their posts.....

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...food-surcharge
"flips his gums", that's a new one

From your article which has the same info as the one the OP posted, "a group representing more than 100 restaurateurs" So 100 restaurants mostly Applebee's whine about losing money and it's a hair on fire event?

Are you aware that there are 10,541 restaurants in Manhattan alone, and that there are 26364 in all 5 boroughs? New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene

And yes, I did a google search
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Occupancy laws/housing codes most likely wouldn't allow that to begin with.

Otherwise you'd have 10 people living in a studio or a one bed or a two bed. All over the city.

Who said minimum wage should be $3/hour or is "market rate"?
Well, certain people here have been arguing that even the federal $7.25/hr is above "market rate", so then what is "market rate"
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Occupancy laws/housing codes most likely wouldn't allow that to begin with.

Otherwise you'd have 10 people living in a studio or a one bed or a two bed. All over the city.

Who said minimum wage should be $3/hour or is "market rate"?
Some allow 2 per bedroom plus 1, so that would be 3 in a one bedroom
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:32 PM
 
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Exclamation Too Much Greed.

And this 5 % is on top of the 20 % tip? I will be eating home, more often......
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Old 05-05-2018, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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By New York restaurants -- the article means Applebee's -- they should be allowed to die.
That's a total lie.
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Old 05-05-2018, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Ok here’s an example because lefties think that every NYC business owner is rich .

This bakery for sale $45,000 . They make sales of $215,000 a year . Wow nice income huh?

But the profit to owner is only $27,000 ..

So as owner they would be making less than a min wage worker .. yet they are the owner taking all the risk and responsibility ..

https://www.bizbuysell.com/Business-...RFbWMzQnBaRDAw
So you pick a crappy failing business and claim that's a compelling reason to keep the minimum wage low?
From your source:

Fast Food Eatery Manhattan asking price $69,000 Cash Flow $75,000 Gross Revenue $220,000
https://www.bizbuysell.com/Business-...BQVFl3T2pJdw==
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Well, Oklahoma cutting food stamps for single poor people and disabled from $16 a month to $8 is surely down your moral alley.
$8 a month? Why even bother?
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