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Old 05-06-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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You presume all abortions are performed due to severely health-compromised fetuses. What's the actual percentage of severely ill fetuses out of all abortions performed? What percentage of abortions are merely just for the sake of the woman's convenience compared to the abortion of severely ill fetuses?
Between 1-3%. It depends on the study cited.

 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/30301...mpaign=dwbrand

"On Wednesday, Iowa legislators passed the "Heartbeat" bill, which would ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detectable. On Friday, Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds (R) signed the bill into law."


“We’re not hiding that at all. A lot has changed since 1973, including Justices, and frankly, the Court got it wrong...”

Don't think it will be long now before Roe v. Wade will be overturned. A day to celebrate.
There will be a special place in heaven for that man.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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The GOP is the party of liars when they claim to favor less government and less government interference in peoples' lives.


This bill will not stop abortion, it will return it to seedy backrooms where women's health will be endangered and self-righteous twits will pat themselves on the back for having moved it there.
What are you talking about? We are trying to get government out if our reproductive lives. Everyone knows it’s wrong as wrong can be to murder another human being. But for a mother to do it to her own child just because some disfunctional mental misfits say it’s ok?
 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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What are you talking about? We are trying to get government out if our reproductive lives. Everyone knows it’s wrong as wrong can be to murder another human being. But for a mother to do it to her own child just because some disfunctional mental misfits say it’s ok?
Thanks for being a huge proponent of Medicaid!
 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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One in 33 have severe congenital malformations. https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/data.html
So... only 3%. The vast majority of abortions are for the sake of convenience.

Well, hell... many mothers think having a baby or toddler or even an older minor child is inconvenient. Can they kill them, too?
 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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So... only 3%. The vast majority of abortions are for the sake of convenience.

Well, hell... many mothers think having a baby or toddler or even an older minor child is inconvenient. Can they kill them, too?

That is not a statistic of abortions but of live births. Watch for that statistic to skyrocket in "heartbeat" states!
 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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So... only 3%. The vast majority of abortions are for the sake of convenience.

Well, hell... many mothers think having a baby or toddler or even an older minor child is inconvenient. Can they kill them, too?
That percentage isn't quite so insignificant if you were one of the pregnant women who were counted in it. I speak from experience.
 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:49 AM
 
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That is not a statistic of abortions but of live births. Watch for that statistic to skyrocket in "heartbeat" states!
Answer the question... Only 3% of babies have congenital birth defects, so the vast majority of abortions are for the sake of convenience. Many mothers think having a baby or toddler or even an older minor child is inconvenient. Can they kill them, too?
 
Old 05-06-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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Correct. And fetal homicide isn't only charged if both die. If the woman lives but the fetus is killed, the crime of fetal homicide, murder, is still charged. That disparity needs to be removed. It violates the Equal Protections Clause. If a mother can kill a fetus, so can anyone else.
No, they can’t. The woman has a right to control her own body. Another person has no right to come and do something to that woman without her permission.

A fetus which has not yet reached viability is just a wee bit different from a baby or a toddler. If you don’t want an abortion don’t have one. If you don’t face the risks of pregnancy and childbirth, don’t make the decision to accept or refuse them for others.

What will happen to the unwanted? Will the state care for them and how? Our foster system is a mess now.

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Old 05-06-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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So... only 3%. The vast majority of abortions are for the sake of convenience.

Well, hell... many mothers think having a baby or toddler or even an older minor child is inconvenient. Can they kill them, too?
You're misreading the stat. This is not a percentage of fetal abnormalities. And considering that more than 50% of pregnancies lead to miscarriages, abnormalities are actually quite common. I forgot the exact estimated stat, but a good portion of miscarriages take place even without the mother's awareness. Then the bulk occurs within the first and second trimester.

Women have abortions for a host of reasons with over 98% performed within the first trimester, many by eight weeks. The reasons however are irrelevant.

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