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Yeah this is what they say in California . Unfortunately now we have a lot more crime because of this .
Law enforcement warned the politicians it would be a bad idea to “early release” criminals .
Also many crimes are basically no jail time or they go to jail for like 6 hours .. it’s become a joke .
Well, if you believe that if you do the crime you gotta do the time there needs to be a prison to serve the time in. States that are adding on population are likely running out of prison beds. I don't know how to build more prisons unless taxes are raised, but many people are opposed to that.
Originally Posted by Raddo
Hopefully you are not saying that we should adopt those types of policies.
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom
There also seems to be a perception that conservatives, government, stronger families and religion will somehow magically eliminate drug addiction.
Towards that end, the only successes are in those countries that impose the harshest consequences.
Given the increasing rarity of capital punishment in the US for even the most violent crimes, the US is not going to embrace harsher consequences for drugs.
You didn't answer my question. There's another poster waiting on your answer also.
Well, if you believe that if you do the crime you gotta do the time there needs to be a prison to serve the time in. States that are adding on population are likely running out of prison beds. I don't know how to build more prisons unless taxes are raised, but many people are opposed to that.
Don't forget about one of the major players in this arena: The $Private Prison Industry (and their lobbyists).
There also seems to be a perception that conservatives, government, stronger families and religion will somehow magically eliminate drug addiction.
Towards that end, the only successes are in those countries that impose the harshest consequences.
Given the increasing rarity of capital punishment in the US for even the most violent crimes, the US is not going to embrace harsher consequences for drugs.
But in Portugal where drugs are decriminalized and people who are addicted can feel free to seek treatment without imprisonment, the drug problem isn't severe.
Thanks, and I agree 100%. Suboxone maintenance proves that addicts can be functional productive members of society again, it doesnt work for everyone, but I think a lot of them want the heroin type high, and Suboxone does not give that, it basically just makes you feel normal again (not sick).
Its feeding the receptors with a legal regulated opioid.
BUt Ive noticed recently they are starting to even crack down on Suboxone, putting it in the same category as stronger narcotics, now why in the world would they want to crack down on a drug that actually helps addicts stop using? LOL And people call me nuts for being a 'conspiracy theorist' and believing there is an agenda with these drug laws?!!! Its hard NOT to see a conspiracy when they do things like this!
Ive said this before, I truly believe it is actually the goal of our Govt to have as many people addicted to illegal drugs as possible, they pushed pill addicts to heroin, in the process got rid of the cartels competition!
Suboxone tends to have a higher street value than Heroin and not because addicts want off the junk. It can be used to block off withdrawal symptoms when connections, transportation and/ or weather result in the temporary inability to obtain the drug of choice.
No shortage of addicts attempt to become weekend warriors and use subs during the week to prevent withdrawal symptoms, while continuing to use on weekends ( or any day of the week for that matter)
Most addicts I have come across are polysubstance abusers with a drug of choice. If not this, well then that. So many do not have the skills or desire to take life as is without a substance to take the edge off.
The Naltrexone shot or implant, which can be effective for an entire month or up to a year if implanted, has been proven to be more effective than Subs and Methadone for Opiate, Opioid and alcohol addiction. It does however require a medically assisted detox before hand and is more costly.
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They'll build more. Private prisons are a growth industry. Jeff Sessions is heavily invested in it.
Nevertheless, a few prisons were closed in Texas as the result of justice reform. It could spread to other states. Also with marijuana being legalized in more and more states, people going to prison over marijuana will largely be eliminated. Needless to say, this is why Sessions is opposed to legalization. But most people are not taking him seriously. He might as well wise up and take profits while he still has them.
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Vancouver has had this for years, and it's a complete failure, so of course Seattle wants to do it too. If something has been proven not to work they're not afraid to spend tax dollars on it over and over and over. It's been a failure for over a decade, but that doesn't keep the left from ignoring the failures, such as the INCREASE in overdose deaths in the city, and grossly exaggerating any minor success.
Complete failure? Rubbish.
It has been very successful in saving lives. You have to remember that it's a safe injection site, and not all drugs are injected. Just because the fentanyl crisis has brought new drug deaths in cocaine etc, doesn't mean that other deaths haven't been prevented,( and the spread of HIV ) by having a place like Insite.
The only countries that have been successful in minimizing drugs in their culture spend the least and instead rely on harsh consequences. Nothing quite like a public hanging to make an impression on the masses.
Hangings and other very harsh punishments would only serve notice to drive drug dealers and their addicted customers to go deeper underground to keep their behavior secret. As a result, you will have more deaths than ever, due to overdose and murder.
Excellent post. Addicts don't always use to get high, just to avoid pain. With heroin, any addict knows how big a dose is necessary to function, and what it takes to get a buzz. Alcohol is different. When you are addicted to alcohol, you wake up shaking and take a drink to calm it down. It is absorbed so slowly that you don't get an immediate response, and you take another drink to spped it up. By the time the first drink, which would have been sufficient, has been absorbed and started doing its job, you have had more than enough to get drunk.
There are heroin addicts in Asia where a fix is readily available, pure, uncut, and cheap. who live perfectly normal lives for decades, many living into their 90s. The War on Drugs is the single largest boondoggle ever perpetrated on the American people, and serves only to keep law enforcement agencies in power and pay for their expensivet toys. It's way past time fro a change.
Opium addiction in parts of Asia goes back thousands of years. Smoking or drinking tea is the most common form of intake.
The needle is an addiction unto itself.
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