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Because they enter the US illegally, not through a border entry.
So inflicting lifelong trauma and damage on 2 year olds is ok because of a choice their parents made?
No matter where I live or what I do, I will always support the rights of children and I will always push for what is best for them regardless of where they came from. A child cannot be held responsible for their parents actions and punishing them, especially when they are young, because you don’t like what their parents have done shows a blatant disregard for those who are helpless.
Is it true that the federal government lost the nearly 1,500 immigrant children?
Not exactly — there’s more to the story. The government in late 2017 was unable to reach 1,475 children after placing them with sponsors. But HHS said that in many cases the children’s sponsors are their parents or family members; some sponsors are here illegally and don’t want to be contacted by federal authorities.
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"With the political side"? What? So expecting those who want to come here to do so in accordance with our immigration laws is somehow connected to "a political side"? And not agreeing with you because you only care about the kids of illegal aliens and not about the kids who are separated from parents who go to jail equates to being "lost"? Wow...just...wow.
Your comparison makes no sense.
Doing lasting damage to toddlers is unacceptable. Just wow is right, your continued excuses in support of such disgusting treatment of completely helpless children is disgusting. I fight for kids day in and day out. I work with local and state government to try and improve situations and serve on committees and groups that focus on solutions facing children because at the end of the day they need someone to care because they have no voice.
I will ALWAYS stand for what is in the best interest for any child and do what I can to help them regardless of where they came from or what their situation is. You assume I only care about immigrant children, but that was wrong. Anyone who refuses to do what is in the best interest of a child because of political motivation or perceived wrongs by their parents is wrong.
Asylum seekers, who don’t cross illegally but show up at the border crossings requesting asylum are being given the same treatment. These people have broken no laws.
Doing lasting damage to toddlers is unacceptable. Just wow is right, your continued excuses in support of such disgusting treatment of completely helpless children is disgusting. I fight for kids day in and day out. I work with local and state government to try and improve situations and serve on committees and groups that focus on solutions facing children because at the end of the day they need someone to care because they have no voice.
I will ALWAYS stand for what is in the best interest for any child and do what I can to help them regardless of where they came from or what their situation is. You assume I only care about immigrant children, but that was wrong. Anyone who refuses to do what is in the best interest of a child because of political motivation or perceived wrongs by their parents is wrong.
My comparison makes perfect sense. Children of Americans who go to jail are "completely helpless" and "have no voice". How can you not see that?
So...do I have this right? You are saying that it's perfectly okay to separate kids from their parents when parents commit crimes and go to jail? Yet you think it's horrifying when it happens to illegal aliens?
What is "disgusting" is that you hold double standards. Why should the kids of illegal aliens be treated better than the kids who have parents in jail?
What you don't get is that these illegal aliens are to blame when they get separated from their kids. It's the same when people commit crimes and go to jail.
It's a form of child abuse to drag young children hundreds of miles through Mexico. Many of these so-called asylum seekers think nothing of climbing aboard La Bestia with their kids despite the fact that scores of illegals have fallen off the train and either been killed or mutilated. If these parents were true asylum seekers, then they would have asked Mexico for asylum rather than put their kids through that abuse. We all know why they want to come to the US, and that is for all the freebies.
There is an old saying which I'll paraphrase --- The sins of the parents fall on the child. None of us had any control over what our parents did or didn't do to or for us when we were growing up. That's life. Deal with it.
So where does it stop with you? Do we, for example, give everyone who grew up poor a big fat check because, after all, it wasn't their fault they grew up poor?
It's sad that these so-called asylum seekers treat their children so poorly but that is on them, not on anyone in this country. Their parents don't care about the best interests of their children, that much is clear. You, no doubt, have seen illegals who birth anchor babies and when the parents get deported, they refuse to take their kids with them and instead abandon them to foster care. Or how about the minors who show up at the border with the address and phone number of their parent(s)? The BP will call the parent(s) and tell them to get their kid and the parent(s) never shows up. They don't show up because they're here illegally and don't want to be caught. That is despicable.
Last year, there was a story about a girl from Ecuador whose parents were illegally in the US. They paid a coyote they never met to sneak their child into this country. The poor girl made it Tijuana and was put in a children's shelter where she hanged herself. What decent parent hands their child over to a total stranger? Many of these kids have been killed, trafficked or raped at the hands of the coyotes.
If I had a child and was in true need of asylum, I would go to the embassy/consulate of the country where I wanted to live in order to start the process. Either that, or if there was a safe country that bordered the one I was in, I would ask there rather than drag my child hundreds of miles.
They are supposed to show up at a port of entry. But the entire argument is a joke. We are a sovereign nation we have no obligation to accept anyone there is no war going on in our hemisphere, these are economic migrants they are not fleeing war torn countries they are just fleeing socialist basket-case countries. If you don't want to be separated from your child(or in most cases the child you are trafficking in here) don't come here to begin with.
Hmmm...Worldwide, that would include many millions of "helpless children who have the
misfortune to be born in dangerous, strife-ridden areas." Should we take them all in?
The entire post is silly. Yeah, we are on "a slipperly slope to a country like North Korea."
Do you expect to be taken seriously?
Trump spurned and insulted the other G-7 world leaders including the prime minister of the host country. He then heaped praise and accolades on a ruthless unethical killer who is the worst human rights abuser in the world. YES, we are on a slippery slope. He could have met with Kim Jong-Un and maintained a dignified polite reserve, he didn't need to lavish that murderer with unwarranted praise.
Now you have Americans, like the ones posting on this board, SUPPORTING the separation of children from their parents. You are a vindictive cruel immoral bunch, and I am dead serious when I say that first these policies will be turned against those trying to cross the border, and then could easily spread to other groups that people like you don't like. And you'll all be cheering. I'll bet that none of you have ever even been affected by the presence of illegal aliens in this country, except to pay lower prices on the produce they pick in back-breaking labor, and enjoy eating your bacon sandwiches from the pigs slaughtered at slaughterhouses where they work under deplorable conditions. You all just don't like the idea of more brown people entering America and threatening your sanctimonious and hate-filled white supremacy.
My comparison makes perfect sense. Children of Americans who go to jail are "completely helpless" and "have no voice". How can you not see that?
So...do I have this right? You are saying that it's perfectly okay to separate kids from their parents when parents commit crimes and go to jail? Yet you think it's horrifying when it happens to illegal aliens?
What is "disgusting" is that you hold double standards. Why should the kids of illegal aliens be treated better than the kids who have parents in jail?
What you don't get is that these illegal aliens are to blame when they get separated from their kids. It's the same when people commit crimes and go to jail.
It's a form of child abuse to drag young children hundreds of miles through Mexico. Many of these so-called asylum seekers think nothing of climbing aboard La Bestia with their kids despite the fact that scores of illegals have fallen off the train and either been killed or mutilated. If these parents were true asylum seekers, then they would have asked Mexico for asylum rather than put their kids through that abuse. We all know why they want to come to the US, and that is for all the freebies.
There is an old saying which I'll paraphrase --- The sins of the parents fall on the child. None of us had any control over what our parents did or didn't do to or for us when we were growing up. That's life. Deal with it.
So where does it stop with you? Do we, for example, give everyone who grew up poor a big fat check because, after all, it wasn't their fault they grew up poor?
It's sad that these so-called asylum seekers treat their children so poorly but that is on them, not on anyone in this country. Their parents don't care about the best interests of their children, that much is clear. You, no doubt, have seen illegals who birth anchor babies and when the parents get deported, they refuse to take their kids with them and instead abandon them to foster care. Or how about the minors who show up at the border with the address and phone number of their parent(s)? The BP will call the parent(s) and tell them to get their kid and the parent(s) never shows up. They don't show up because they're here illegally and don't want to be caught. That is despicable.
Last year, there was a story about a girl from Ecuador whose parents were illegally in the US. They paid a coyote they never met to sneak their child into this country. The poor girl made it Tijuana and was put in a children's shelter where she hanged herself. What decent parent hands their child over to a total stranger? Many of these kids have been killed, trafficked or raped at the hands of the coyotes.
If I had a child and was in true need of asylum, I would go to the embassy/consulate of the country where I wanted to live in order to start the process. Either that, or if there was a safe country that bordered the one I was in, I would ask there rather than drag my child hundreds of miles.
Do you have any idea how incredibly bad and dangerous the conditions are in which these people live in Central America, that they would be so desperate that they would indeed risk their own lives and the lives of their children to escape? If a dangerous trek across a desert and known hostility, incarceration, and no welcome at the border are seen as the better option, can you imagine how bad things are in the places these people are fleeing from.
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They were sent to live in different parts of the country because they had family there to take care of them. And please don’t use Kelly Ann’s talking points when Americans commit crimes.....because they have family to take care of them. Apples and oranges
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The difference is these kids go live with other family members. I guess a lot of you listened to the talking points of trumps administration
Where is this mythical place you speak of, where every child has a second parent and family members that they can live with if their parent is jailed?
In this country there are many single parent homes. Some don't even have close family members, or any family members. Even if there is a second parent and family members, they may not be responsible enough to watch over a child, due to drugs, in and out of prison themselves, not physically/mentally capable, not financially capable, etc. What about those kids?
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