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Why should I take offence? I am not Palestinian, I think it just reveals your mindset and it doesn't come across too well, if I have misread what you are trying to say then I apologise but 'their betters' sounds like the kind of thinking the Nazi's (among others) used to have.
If you are implying that I'm being racist or a proponent of eugenics then that's a very gross extrapolation. I do believe that the Israelis have a superior way of life and society but don't think that had anything to do with genetics.
Turkey? You mean the country that has been ruling over the Greek Orthodox capital for over 500 years. I do find it ironic that they are complaining about Israeli occupation.
Not to mention the Armenian Genocide, Assyrian Genocide, and Greek Genocide, and one of the biggest Slave based empires since Mohammad. Erdogan wishes to bring back the Glory days of the Islamic Ottoman Empire
Why would Israel need to use women and children when they have American jets, cruise missiles and a standing army to execute their genocide instead? No matter how you spin it, Israel is dealing with the same guerilla style warfare that has been used against colonial occupations in many countries including the US revolution against the British. Without the use of similar tactics, the United States wouldn't exist. How far would you go to defend your homeland from what you believe is an invading force? Let the Palestinians have an army, air force and obtain weapons from foreign countries and you might have a point.
Pretty ineffective genocide as the Palestinian population keeps growing...
If Israel wanted to commit "genocide" on the Palestinians, Then within 48 hours, at least half of them would be dead. This hasn't happened because Israel doesn't want genocide.
Just because one believes that they are righteous and fighting the good fight against bad people doesn't mean it's true (ISIS, the Nazis, the Khmer Rouge...). Hamas' stated goal is the destruction of Israel. If they were capable of doing anything right, then I think there is little doubt that they themselves would do their best to engage in genocide.
This is not a balanced debate. No matter what the two sides here claim the government (US) will arm the Israelis to the teeth and give them the green light to continue massacring children forever.
I don't think I've met someone as adept at not answering a single question or even acknowledging a dissenting viewpoint so that they can just repeat slogans in quite some time...
Is Israel supposed to allow enemies to swarm into their country, accomplishing what the armies of the Arab world could not?
Yes, once Muslims conquer your territory, and turn it into an Islamic Republic, they don't want to give it up. Islam has been at war with the West(And everyone else for that matter, including themselves) for the last 1400 years and it has never stopped.
As I have read more of your posts it seems you actually do know. You don't like Israel and/or Jews one little bit.
Democrat/Republican dilemma. Most Jewish people in the US support the State of Israel and are Democrat. Most Republicans seem to also support the state of israel Most Muslims in the US despise the State of Israel and are also mostly Democrats
Israel was created on stolen land [nope] by the power of far-away nations. Israel grew and needed more land so they waged war against their neighbors and stole their lands for settlements. [NOPE] To hold those lands, they brutalize and mistreat the people who once owned them. They sound a lot like another country we all know intimately.
Uh, no. That's the propaganda from the Islamic side.
PALESTINIAN IRE
If I understand the controversy, it goes something like this:
Doofus European Jews, funded by widespread drives, buy some crappy land sold by crafty Locals. City boys and girls, with hard work and scientific methods, turn around and transform that crappy land into some of the most productive farmland in the Middle East. Sellers are embarrassed / remorseful.
Along comes the golden opportunity. The British are about to leave and transfer administration to the two power blocs - Jews and Muslims. The Brits deliberately arm the Muslims and forbid the Jews from having arms - so that they’d acquiesce to a permanent Brit presence. Doesn’t sway them. The Jews promise peace and justice, etc. While all the Islamic neighbors plan to exterminate the Jews. The neighboring countries give a "friendly" warning to fellow Muslims to "get out of the way," and not to defend their lands against fellow Muslim invaders / liberators. Everyone assumes that Israel will fall, and so the Palestinian Muslims abandon their properties ahead of the fireworks.
But Israel prevails. D'oh. Plan backfires.
This is compounding the insult upon Islam - not only are they shown up to be lousy incompetent farmers, now they're shown up as lousy incompetent fighters.
Much loss of face.
Unacceptable insult to Islam.
To compound the situation, the refugees are unwilling to return and swear allegiance to the victorious Israeli government, and instead adopt the mantra, that Israel must be exterminated, lest she shows up Islam even more.
This is acceptable to the rest of Islam, and thus we come to the present.
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Modern agriculture developed in the late nineteenth century, when Jews began settling in the land. They purchased land which was mostly semi-arid, although much had been rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. They set about clearing rocky fields, constructing terraces, draining swampland, reforesting, counteracting soil erosion, and washing salty land. Since independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 408,000 acres (1,650 km2) to 1,070,000 acres (4,300 km2), while the number of agricultural communities has increased from 400 to 725. Agricultural production has expanded 16 times, three times more than population growth.
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LITTLE ISRAEL v GOLIATH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...tate_of_Israel
On 14 May 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel".
The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered what had been British Mandatory Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War; Contingents from Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Sudan joined the war.
(For a total of EIGHT Muslim nations)
- - -
ISRAEL (area) 20,770–22,072 km2 (8,019–8,522 sq mi)
[In contrast, New Jersey (area) 22,591.38 km2 (8,722.58 sq mi)]
All Islam cannot tolerate a tiny Jewish state, smaller than New Jersey?
*(and mostly desert !)
Total area of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan = > 2,311,275 sq mi (271 times the size of Israel)
EGYPT: 1,010,407.87 km2 (387,048 sq mi)
SYRIA : 85,180 km2 (71,500 sq mi)
JORDAN : 89,341 km2 (34,495 sq mi)
IRAQ : 437,072 km2 (168,754 sq mi)
YEMEN : 527,968 km2 (203,850 sq mi)
MOROCCO : 710,850 km2 (274,460 sq mi)
SAUDI ARABIA : 2,149,690 km2 (830,000 sq mi)
SUDAN : 1,886,068 km2 (728,215 sq mi)
- - -
Since they cannot win by conventional warfare, they are using psychological warfare, based on fabrication and deception to gain support for their surreptitious conquest of Israel.
They're using their own people as cannon fodder, to wrench the hearts of the world.
It is not working, since the infidels are waking up and disregarding the lies peddled by the jihadis and zealots. Their allegiance is to eternal jihad against all infidels. Their protests are theatrics, not a cry for justice. Their goal is the eradication of Israel by any means, fair or foul.
So when Israel defends itself - - -
OH BAD ISRAEL - BAD BAD BAD - SHAMEY SHAMEY [/sarcasm]
Uh, no. That's the propaganda from the Islamic side.
PALESTINIAN IRE
If I understand the controversy, it goes something like this:
Doofus European Jews, funded by widespread drives, buy some crappy land sold by crafty Locals. City boys and girls, with hard work and scientific methods, turn around and transform that crappy land into some of the most productive farmland in the Middle East. Sellers are embarrassed / remorseful.
Along comes the golden opportunity. The British are about to leave and transfer administration to the two power blocs - Jews and Muslims. The Brits deliberately arm the Muslims and forbid the Jews from having arms - so that they’d acquiesce to a permanent Brit presence. Doesn’t sway them. The Jews promise peace and justice, etc. While all the Islamic neighbors plan to exterminate the Jews. The neighboring countries give a "friendly" warning to fellow Muslims to "get out of the way," and not to defend their lands against fellow Muslim invaders / liberators. Everyone assumes that Israel will fall, and so the Palestinian Muslims abandon their properties ahead of the fireworks.
But Israel prevails. D'oh. Plan backfires.
This is compounding the insult upon Islam - not only are they shown up to be lousy incompetent farmers, now they're shown up as lousy incompetent fighters.
Much loss of face.
Unacceptable insult to Islam.
To compound the situation, the refugees are unwilling to return and swear allegiance to the victorious Israeli government, and instead adopt the mantra, that Israel must be exterminated, lest she shows up Islam even more.
This is acceptable to the rest of Islam, and thus we come to the present.
...
...
Modern agriculture developed in the late nineteenth century, when Jews began settling in the land. They purchased land which was mostly semi-arid, although much had been rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. They set about clearing rocky fields, constructing terraces, draining swampland, reforesting, counteracting soil erosion, and washing salty land. Since independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 408,000 acres (1,650 km2) to 1,070,000 acres (4,300 km2), while the number of agricultural communities has increased from 400 to 725. Agricultural production has expanded 16 times, three times more than population growth.
...
...
LITTLE ISRAEL v GOLIATH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...tate_of_Israel
On 14 May 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel".
The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered what had been British Mandatory Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War; Contingents from Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Sudan joined the war.
(For a total of EIGHT Muslim nations)
- - -
ISRAEL (area) 20,770–22,072 km2 (8,019–8,522 sq mi)
[In contrast, New Jersey (area) 22,591.38 km2 (8,722.58 sq mi)]
All Islam cannot tolerate a tiny Jewish state, smaller than New Jersey?
*(and mostly desert !)
Total area of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan = > 2,311,275 sq mi (271 times the size of Israel)
EGYPT: 1,010,407.87 km2 (387,048 sq mi)
SYRIA : 85,180 km2 (71,500 sq mi)
JORDAN : 89,341 km2 (34,495 sq mi)
IRAQ : 437,072 km2 (168,754 sq mi)
YEMEN : 527,968 km2 (203,850 sq mi)
MOROCCO : 710,850 km2 (274,460 sq mi)
SAUDI ARABIA : 2,149,690 km2 (830,000 sq mi)
SUDAN : 1,886,068 km2 (728,215 sq mi)
- - -
Since they cannot win by conventional warfare, they are using psychological warfare, based on fabrication and deception to gain support for their surreptitious conquest of Israel.
They're using their own people as cannon fodder, to wrench the hearts of the world.
It is not working, since the infidels are waking up and disregarding the lies peddled by the jihadis and zealots. Their allegiance is to eternal jihad against all infidels. Their protests are theatrics, not a cry for justice. Their goal is the eradication of Israel by any means, fair or foul.
So when Israel defends itself - - -
OH BAD ISRAEL - BAD BAD BAD - SHAMEY SHAMEY [/sarcasm]
Terrorists are thugs like Netanyahu who butcher children and then celebrate there own violence. You are excusing genocide.
Hamas is always advocating genocide of Israeli Jews. Israel on the other hand takes great care to avoid harming women and children when possible but that is not always possible. Israel also is treating Syrian civilians all the time despite the fact Syria is still legally in a state of war with Israel.
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics
PALESTINIAN IRE
If I understand the controversy, it goes something like this:
Doofus European Jews, funded by widespread drives, buy some crappy land sold by crafty Locals. City boys and girls, with hard work and scientific methods, turn around and transform that crappy land into some of the most productive farmland in the Middle East. Sellers are embarrassed / remorseful.
Along comes the golden opportunity. The British are about to leave and transfer administration to the two power blocs - Jews and Muslims. The Brits deliberately arm the Muslims and forbid the Jews from having arms - so that they’d acquiesce to a permanent Brit presence. Doesn’t sway them. The Jews promise peace and justice, etc. While all the Islamic neighbors plan to exterminate the Jews. The neighboring countries give a "friendly" warning to fellow Muslims to "get out of the way," and not to defend their lands against fellow Muslim invaders / liberators. Everyone assumes that Israel will fall, and so the Palestinian Muslims abandon their properties ahead of the fireworks.
But Israel prevails. D'oh. Plan backfires.
This is compounding the insult upon Islam - not only are they shown up to be lousy incompetent farmers, now they're shown up as lousy incompetent fighters.
Much loss of face.
Unacceptable insult to Islam.
To compound the situation, the refugees are unwilling to return and swear allegiance to the victorious Israeli government, and instead adopt the mantra, that Israel must be exterminated, lest she shows up Islam even more.
This is acceptable to the rest of Islam, and thus we come to the present.
...
...
Modern agriculture developed in the late nineteenth century, when Jews began settling in the land. They purchased land which was mostly semi-arid, although much had been rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. They set about clearing rocky fields, constructing terraces, draining swampland, reforesting, counteracting soil erosion, and washing salty land. Since independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 408,000 acres (1,650 km2) to 1,070,000 acres (4,300 km2), while the number of agricultural communities has increased from 400 to 725. Agricultural production has expanded 16 times, three times more than population growth.
...
...
LITTLE ISRAEL v GOLIATH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...tate_of_Israel
On 14 May 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel".
The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered what had been British Mandatory Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War; Contingents from Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Sudan joined the war.
(For a total of EIGHT Muslim nations)
- - -
ISRAEL (area) 20,770–22,072 km2 (8,019–8,522 sq mi)
[In contrast, New Jersey (area) 22,591.38 km2 (8,722.58 sq mi)]
All Islam cannot tolerate a tiny Jewish state, smaller than New Jersey?
*(and mostly desert !)
Total area of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan = > 2,311,275 sq mi (271 times the size of Israel)
EGYPT: 1,010,407.87 km2 (387,048 sq mi)
SYRIA : 85,180 km2 (71,500 sq mi)
JORDAN : 89,341 km2 (34,495 sq mi)
IRAQ : 437,072 km2 (168,754 sq mi)
YEMEN : 527,968 km2 (203,850 sq mi)
MOROCCO : 710,850 km2 (274,460 sq mi)
SAUDI ARABIA : 2,149,690 km2 (830,000 sq mi)
SUDAN : 1,886,068 km2 (728,215 sq mi)
- - -
Since they cannot win by conventional warfare, they are using psychological warfare, based on fabrication and deception to gain support for their surreptitious conquest of Israel.
They're using their own people as cannon fodder, to wrench the hearts of the world.
It is not working, since the infidels are waking up and disregarding the lies peddled by the jihadis and zealots. Their allegiance is to eternal jihad against all infidels. Their protests are theatrics, not a cry for justice. Their goal is the eradication of Israel by any means, fair or foul.
So when Israel defends itself - - -
OH BAD ISRAEL - BAD BAD BAD - SHAMEY SHAMEY [/sarcasm]
Uh, no. That's the propaganda from the Islamic side.
PALESTINIAN IRE
If I understand the controversy, it goes something like this:
Doofus European Jews, funded by widespread drives, buy some crappy land sold by crafty Locals. City boys and girls, with hard work and scientific methods, turn around and transform that crappy land into some of the most productive farmland in the Middle East. Sellers are embarrassed / remorseful.
Along comes the golden opportunity. The British are about to leave and transfer administration to the two power blocs - Jews and Muslims. The Brits deliberately arm the Muslims and forbid the Jews from having arms - so that they’d acquiesce to a permanent Brit presence. Doesn’t sway them. The Jews promise peace and justice, etc. While all the Islamic neighbors plan to exterminate the Jews. The neighboring countries give a "friendly" warning to fellow Muslims to "get out of the way," and not to defend their lands against fellow Muslim invaders / liberators. Everyone assumes that Israel will fall, and so the Palestinian Muslims abandon their properties ahead of the fireworks.
But Israel prevails. D'oh. Plan backfires.
This is compounding the insult upon Islam - not only are they shown up to be lousy incompetent farmers, now they're shown up as lousy incompetent fighters.
Much loss of face.
Unacceptable insult to Islam.
To compound the situation, the refugees are unwilling to return and swear allegiance to the victorious Israeli government, and instead adopt the mantra, that Israel must be exterminated, lest she shows up Islam even more.
This is acceptable to the rest of Islam, and thus we come to the present.
...
...
Modern agriculture developed in the late nineteenth century, when Jews began settling in the land. They purchased land which was mostly semi-arid, although much had been rendered untillable by deforestation, soil erosion and neglect. They set about clearing rocky fields, constructing terraces, draining swampland, reforesting, counteracting soil erosion, and washing salty land. Since independence in 1948, the total area under cultivation has increased from 408,000 acres (1,650 km2) to 1,070,000 acres (4,300 km2), while the number of agricultural communities has increased from 400 to 725. Agricultural production has expanded 16 times, three times more than population growth.
...
...
LITTLE ISRAEL v GOLIATH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...tate_of_Israel
On 14 May 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared "the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel".
The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Transjordan and Iraq—entered what had been British Mandatory Palestine, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War; Contingents from Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Sudan joined the war.
(For a total of EIGHT Muslim nations)
- - -
ISRAEL (area) 20,770–22,072 km2 (8,019–8,522 sq mi)
[In contrast, New Jersey (area) 22,591.38 km2 (8,722.58 sq mi)]
All Islam cannot tolerate a tiny Jewish state, smaller than New Jersey?
*(and mostly desert !)
Total area of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Iraq, Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan = > 2,311,275 sq mi (271 times the size of Israel)
EGYPT: 1,010,407.87 km2 (387,048 sq mi)
SYRIA : 85,180 km2 (71,500 sq mi)
JORDAN : 89,341 km2 (34,495 sq mi)
IRAQ : 437,072 km2 (168,754 sq mi)
YEMEN : 527,968 km2 (203,850 sq mi)
MOROCCO : 710,850 km2 (274,460 sq mi)
SAUDI ARABIA : 2,149,690 km2 (830,000 sq mi)
SUDAN : 1,886,068 km2 (728,215 sq mi)
- - -
Since they cannot win by conventional warfare, they are using psychological warfare, based on fabrication and deception to gain support for their surreptitious conquest of Israel.
They're using their own people as cannon fodder, to wrench the hearts of the world.
It is not working, since the infidels are waking up and disregarding the lies peddled by the jihadis and zealots. Their allegiance is to eternal jihad against all infidels. Their protests are theatrics, not a cry for justice. Their goal is the eradication of Israel by any means, fair or foul.
So when Israel defends itself - - -
OH BAD ISRAEL - BAD BAD BAD - SHAMEY SHAMEY [/sarcasm]
Ok victors write history and also the plan.All I know is this is not a sudden event to have happened in a day. Some books written in 20's say the new state would eventually be created under religious grounds but ultimately as a safe haven in case of any crimes.
And what was happening in Germany in 30's is happening in USA now too - excessive power in government, media control, financial control and even Philantropy (LOL).
Example is the daily hate campaign against Trump , who wishes to MAGA by seeking peace with everyone.
Neuling can confirm
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. Most Jewish people in the US support the State of Israel and are Democrat. Most Republicans seem to also support the state of israel
