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Old 05-14-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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Iranians Fear Deeper Crisis as Trump Ends Nuclear Deal
Deal's Collapse Leaves Leader in a Fragile State

By Thomas Erdbrink


The sense of crisis in Iran runs deep and wide. The economy is in free fall. The currency is plummeting. Rising prices are squeezing city dwellers. A five-year drought is devastating the countryside. The pitched battle between political moderates and hard-liners is so perilous that there is even talk of a military takeover.

Now, the lifeline offered by the 2015 nuclear deal, which was supposed to alleviate pressure on Iran’s economy and crack open the barriers to the West, is falling apart, too: President Trump announced Tuesday that he was withdrawing the United States from the agreement, which he called a “disastrous deal.”

The chief loser will be the country’s moderate president, Hassan Rouhani, who now looks weakened, foolish and burned for the risk he took in dealing with the Americans...

“Someone, please change our fate, whoever, even Trump,” said Ali Shoja, a cleaner who said he can’t afford to support his three sons. “I used to be a driver, now I clean. What’s next? I cannot become a beggar.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/w...lear-deal.html


Seems to me:

1. If Iran's moderate president is weakened, that may open the way to a hard-liner who openly rants against America and supports terrorism.

2. It'll likely lead to an increase in oil/gas prices.

3. This sends a clear signal that no country should trust America on any deal.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: United States
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Or, it means a tyrant that was developing nuclear weapons will be stopped, likely removed, and will lead to more stability in the region.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Nature hates a vacuum. Whenever the US moves out of a diplomatic effort, someone else moves in. No one can what might happen because you never are sure who will step into the void.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Iranians Fear Deeper Crisis as Trump Ends Nuclear Deal
Deal's Collapse Leaves Leader in a Fragile State

By Thomas Erdbrink


The sense of crisis in Iran runs deep and wide. The economy is in free fall. The currency is plummeting. Rising prices are squeezing city dwellers. A five-year drought is devastating the countryside. The pitched battle between political moderates and hard-liners is so perilous that there is even talk of a military takeover.

Now, the lifeline offered by the 2015 nuclear deal, which was supposed to alleviate pressure on Iran’s economy and crack open the barriers to the West, is falling apart, too: President Trump announced Tuesday that he was withdrawing the United States from the agreement, which he called a “disastrous deal.”

The chief loser will be the country’s moderate president, Hassan Rouhani, who now looks weakened, foolish and burned for the risk he took in dealing with the Americans...

“Someone, please change our fate, whoever, even Trump,” said Ali Shoja, a cleaner who said he can’t afford to support his three sons. “I used to be a driver, now I clean. What’s next? I cannot become a beggar.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/w...lear-deal.html


Seems to me:

1. If Iran's moderate president is weakened, that may open the way to a hard-liner who openly rants against America and supports terrorism.

2. It'll likely lead to an increase in oil/gas prices.

3. This sends a clear signal that no country should trust America on any deal.
there never should have been a 'deal' from obozo to the TERRORIST state of iran
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Or, it means a tyrant that was developing nuclear weapons will be stopped, likely removed.
The U.S. has been run by tyrants for decades and has been developing nuclear weapons for 75 years. Does the world have the right to overthrow the U.S. government?
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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there never should have been a 'deal' from obozo to the TERRORIST state of iran
The U.S. government is the biggest terrorist state on earth.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
Iranians Fear Deeper Crisis as Trump Ends Nuclear Deal
Deal's Collapse Leaves Leader in a Fragile State

By Thomas Erdbrink


The sense of crisis in Iran runs deep and wide. The economy is in free fall. The currency is plummeting. Rising prices are squeezing city dwellers. A five-year drought is devastating the countryside. The pitched battle between political moderates and hard-liners is so perilous that there is even talk of a military takeover.

Now, the lifeline offered by the 2015 nuclear deal, which was supposed to alleviate pressure on Iran’s economy and crack open the barriers to the West, is falling apart, too: President Trump announced Tuesday that he was withdrawing the United States from the agreement, which he called a “disastrous deal.”

The chief loser will be the country’s moderate president, Hassan Rouhani, who now looks weakened, foolish and burned for the risk he took in dealing with the Americans...

“Someone, please change our fate, whoever, even Trump,” said Ali Shoja, a cleaner who said he can’t afford to support his three sons. “I used to be a driver, now I clean. What’s next? I cannot become a beggar.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/w...lear-deal.html


Seems to me:

1. If Iran's moderate president is weakened, that may open the way to a hard-liner who openly rants against America and supports terrorism.

2. It'll likely lead to an increase in oil/gas prices.

3. This sends a clear signal that no country should trust America on any deal.
1. Iran is already governed by hardliners who openly rant against America and support terrorism. It's incredible people still try to pass the "Iran's president is a moderate" lie with a straight face when even the architect of the "Rouhani is a moderate" narrative has admitted it was a lie.

2. Great, maybe we can put some of our oil producers back to work that Saudi Arabia drove to the unemployment line by flooding the market with oil.

3. It sends out a clear signal to our stated enemies that this administration won't coddle them, and our allies in the Middle East are elated we dumped this piece of crap. This deal was opposed by overwhelming majorities in both chambers of Congress and Iran was on notice that this was not a treaty and thus subject to revocation at any time for any reason.

Last edited by Bitey; 05-14-2018 at 05:56 PM..
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Boston
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"progressives" like everything to remain the same
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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"Iran's moderate president" LOL, good one
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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1. Iran is already governed by hardliners who openly rant against America and support terrorism. It's incredible people still try to pass the "Iran's president is a moderate" lie with a straight face when even the architect of the "Rouhani is a moderate" narrative has admitted it was a lie.

2. Great, maybe we can put some of our oil producers back to work that Saudi Arabia drove to the unemployment line by flooding the market with oil.

3. It sends out a clear signal to our stated enemies that we won't coddle them, and our allies in the Middle East are elated we dumped this piece of crap. This deal was opposed by overwhelming majorities in both chambers of Congress and Iran was on notice that this was not a treaty and thus subject to revocation at any time for any reason.
1. "Government" doesn't equal "the people." Most Persians like and admire America and the West.

2. The U.S. gets most of its oil from Canada and Mexico.

3. They're not "our" enemies or "our" allies. We don't live in a communist collective. No Persian has ever threatened me, my family, or my income.
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