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Old 05-18-2018, 05:40 AM
 
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I'm no leftist. Just so it's clear the Internet you have been using for the past 20 years has operated under the net neutrality pincipal.That is just a fact. What NN dictates is that your ISP will give you equal access to the sites and services you wish to use. Whether you are viewing Fox News, CNN, Infowars, Media Matters, Stormfront or a BLM site your ISP is required to provide equal access to that service. This is also fact.



While Net Neutrality has nothing to do with government censoring content it most certainly protects you from the ISP doing it. Repeal of this policy can only be a step back for freedom of speech, also fact.
Net Neutrality is 2 years old. All that is happening here is large content providers are trying to save money on bandwidth and ISPs want to charge them money for hogging up all their bandwidth. It’s just a battle between large corporations, that is all. The claims being made by the pro Net neutrality large content providers are totally bogus if any isp tried charging customers to access websites they would go out of business and it hasn’t happened in the 30 years of the internet being around. What will happen though is that there will be less innovation under government regulated internet. Websites like AOL would have never been invented had their been net neutrality in the 90s.
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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OK, I'll ask again. What are the pros and cons?

Now, you profess to to truly understand the subject. Without simply vomiting insults onto the board, please explain why someone would want it to go away?
There is no con argument for the consumer. Unless you consider not being forced to pay extra to access the entire internet a con.
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Net Neutrality is 2 years old. All that is happening here is large content providers are trying to save money on bandwidth and ISPs want to charge them money for hogging up all their bandwidth. It’s just a battle between large corporations, that is all. The claims being made by the pro Net neutrality large content providers are totally bogus if any isp tried charging customers to access websites they would go out of business and it hasn’t happened in the 30 years of the internet being around. What will happen though is that there will be less innovation under government regulated internet. Websites like AOL would have never been invented had their been net neutrality in the 90s.
No it isn't. This is literally how the internet works in Portugal. You have tiers of access that you pay extra for.
It's like the premium subscriptions on cable, but instead of paying extra for HBO and Showtime and Starz, you're paying extra for news sites, YouTube, and Facebook.

And it's not a two-year-old issues since net neutrality has been part of the internet since its inception.
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:58 AM
 
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The net neutrality situation might be worth for a meme.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:00 AM
 
Location: NC
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Net Neutrality is 2 years old. All that is happening here is large content providers are trying to save money on bandwidth and ISPs want to charge them money for hogging up all their bandwidth. It’s just a battle between large corporations, that is all. The claims being made by the pro Net neutrality large content providers are totally bogus if any isp tried charging customers to access websites they would go out of business and it hasn’t happened in the 30 years of the internet being around. What will happen though is that there will be less innovation under government regulated internet. Websites like AOL would have never been invented had their been net neutrality in the 90s.
oh my, lol.


the "Internet" has not been around for 30 years but it is technically a spawn of the ARPA project that started in 1969 so I can understand why you might be misinformed. We have not had websites for that long either as the first HTTP standard didnt show up til 1997 with RFC2068... though we had something similar called the finger service on Unix systems which is basically a text only webpage originally described in RFC742.




AOL didnt start as a "website"...It started as a dialup online service in the mid 1980s for 8bit Commodore computers called QuantumLink.

That said, just say no to getting the government involved in the current state of the Internet...the free market will work itself out. getting the government involved in most things just lowers efficiency and adds to cost.

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Old 05-18-2018, 06:26 AM
 
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Net Neutrality is 2 years old.
The concept of Net Neutrality predates the Internet, the IPS's have been adhering to this principal either voluntarily or by force with actions brought by the FCC up to this point.

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All that is happening here is large content providers are trying to save money on bandwidth and ISPs want to charge them money for hogging up all their bandwidth.
If you you fill up your pool the water company does not charge the pool company, they charge you. There is absolutely nothing preventing the ISP from charging their customers for the resources they consume under NN.

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What will happen though is that there will be less innovation under government regulated internet.
There is a few key things that have driven innovation on the internet. At the top of the list is the non proprietary HTML standard and second on the list is because of NN any company can reach any customer.


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Websites like AOL would have never been invented had their been net neutrality in the 90s.
AOL was ISP that like many others tried to create a "walled garden" with their own browser and services, that was rejected by consumers. Their service adhered to the NN principal because you did not need to use their "walled garden". You could open a browser of your choice and off you went.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The net neutrality situation might be worth for a meme.
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What does that even mean? Is is there some bureaucrat right now in charge of the internet that I don't know about?
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:35 AM
 
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What does that even mean? Is is there some bureaucrat right now in charge of the internet that I don't know about?
It mean if the bureaucrat is untouchable and isn't easy to bribe and corrupt as well as if the bureaucrat is competent or if he's work well on his job instead of playing solitaire, watching porn online or just sleeping on the job.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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There is no con argument for the consumer. Unless you consider not being forced to pay extra to access the entire internet a con.
I already pay for the internet and the internet is supposed to be free.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It mean if the bureaucrat is untouchable and isn't easy to bribe and corrupt as well as if the bureaucrat is competent or if he's work well on his job instead of playing solitaire, watching porn online or just sleeping on the job.
Is there a bureaucrat in charge Of the internet taught now?
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