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Old 05-18-2018, 10:53 PM
 
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You couldn't be more wrong. There are currently about 100,000 foster kids up for adoption in the USA and 2 million couples ready to adopt a child. There is a long waiting list to adopt, couples have to wait years to do so.

Maybe YOU don't care about those kids but millions of people in fact do!
This is total BS. Look it up. And many of these kids are special needs who will probably never get adopted
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:55 PM
 
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Except PP doesn't use federal funds to perform abortions.

Aren't you a woman?

You want the Federal Government having a say over your body and personal choices?
PP uses tax money so saying they don't use it for abortions is nonsense. I know how we can be sure they don't-----MAKE THIS PLAN GO INTO EFFECT.
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:58 PM
 
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Why do Dems want abortions----seems they don't want to support the poor when they say they do. Hypocrites.
Abortion is legal. Abortion is legal. What Republicans want to do is take away the resources that make abortion available to the poor. They want to force the poor to have the baby the poor know they cannot afford. But the Republicans don't want to help the poor after the baby is born. Then that baby is just a homeless child not worth food stamps, Section 8 housing or reduced lunches. The baby is being forced to be born and then told to live a life of poverty. A wealthy person simply goes to the doctor and has the abortion under the name D&C. Will Republicans try to make D&Cs illegal? Many times a child dies in pregnancy. A D&C is needed. Will Republicans demand a team of doctors to testify in order to do a D&C? How far is this to be taken?
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:58 PM
 
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I am so effing sick of this argument! Not all abortions are performed because a woman finds herself unexpectedly pregnant. Sometimes things go horribly, terribly wrong during a much-wanted pregnancy and the most logical path forward is termination. Ask me how I know. There are more of us out here who been through such an experience than you can imagine, and when you've sat in front of a pediatric neurologist and sobbed while learning that your pregnancy is doomed, then perhaps you'll have something of value to add to the discussion. Until that point, just SHUT UP!
Most abortions are for the person convivence as the baby is not wanted NOW. It's sad when a pregnancy is in trouble but that is not as frequent as PP wants us tobelieve.
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:59 PM
 
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PP uses tax money so saying they don't use it for abortions is nonsense. I know how we can be sure they don't-----MAKE THIS PLAN GO INTO EFFECT.
Janelle, do you really want us to go to back alley abortions. We have evolved and now you want us to go backwards
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:00 PM
 
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Most abortions are for the person convivence as the baby is not wanted NOW. It's sad when a pregnancy is in trouble but that is not as frequent as PP wants us tobelieve.
Because the better alternative is to force the birth of 300,000 more babies a year. Sure, that makes complete sense. Take away the resources from the poor to make sure all those 300,000 babies forced to be born are born in poverty.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:00 PM
 
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Abortion is legal. Abortion is legal. What Republicans want to do is take away the resources that make abortion available to the poor. They want to force the poor to have the baby the poor know they cannot afford. But the Republicans don't want to help the poor after the baby is born. Then that baby is just a homeless child not worth food stamps, Section 8 housing or reduced lunches. The baby is being forced to be born and then told to live a life of poverty. A wealthy person simply goes to the doctor and has the abortion under the name D&C. Will Republicans try to make D&Cs illegal? Many times a child dies in pregnancy. A D&C is needed. Will Republicans demand a team of doctors to testify in order to do a D&C? How far is this to be taken?
Are you saying Dems don't want to help the woman after the baby is born----that is what you are saying, you know. They just want poor women to go get an abortion. Problem taken care of----just kill the baby.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:01 PM
 
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So Republicans want to turn the poor into a baby factory for the rich? We really are becoming A Handmaid's Tale! The poor will be forced to have babies they know they can't afford then told to put them up for adoption. And if they keep them, they become a burden on taxpayers. This all sounds so... Republican.
Such a sad and cynical outlook you have on human potential. Believe it or not, many people such as Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Simone Biles, and multiple US Presidents were put up for adoption and were not in fact burdens on the taxpayers. Thankfully their parents didn't murder them like PP surely would have advocated in their situations.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:01 PM
 
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Because the better alternative is to force the birth of 300,000 more babies a year. Sure, that makes complete sense. Take away the resources from the poor to make sure all those 300,000 babies forced to be born are born in poverty.
There is adoption so don't say all of them will live in poverty. That is a lie.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:02 PM
 
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PP uses tax money so saying they don't use it for abortions is nonsense. I know how we can be sure they don't-----MAKE THIS PLAN GO INTO EFFECT.
What an obsession with the wombs of others. Quite remarkable and very sinister.
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How the anti-abortion movement helped invent fake news
Anti-abortion activists trained the right to accept and perpetuate lies. Now the problem has metastasized

Back in the 1970s, the religious right came to realize that dishonesty was their most effective weapon in the fight against reproductive rights. Opposition to legal abortion has always been rooted in hostility to women's equality and sexual liberation — which is why anti-choice groups and religions also tend to oppose premarital sex, comprehensive sex education and contraception — but by claiming that they were "pro-life," anti-abortion activists could confuse the issue and garner more sympathy than they would have by admitting their true motivations.

But while that deception has fueled the movement for decades, what is really remarkable to someone like me who has covered the anti-choice movement for years is the way the entire movement is built on lies and conspiracy theories. In every area of anti-abortion activism and virtually every argument, there is a lie. Long before Donald Trump set foot on the political stage, abortion opponents really mastered the dark art of deceptive propaganda.

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/02/how...vent-fake-news
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