Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
"Abortion clinic manager turned pro-lifer Abby Johnson once described a conversation she and the workers at her abortion facility had about Hern. Johnson said her boss at the time said the babies aborted by Hern are so large, “they come out crying and looking for their mama.”
I don't know why all abortion workers don't turn pro-life with what they witness.
In reality, she was just a disgruntled employee cited for poor job performance, who wanted to get back with exaggerated or outright false claims made against Planned Parenthood. The protesters outside PP assured her they could offer her another job.
The federal government has the right to audit health care facilities, they do not have the right to dictate which services can take place within their buildings unless they are illegal. PP is a qualified health provider under title X, period.
Exactly. Using federal funds for abortions is illegal. If federal funds are used to pay for staffing, overhead, operating expenses, supplies, etc., at PP facilities that provide abortions, that's illegal.
This IS actually the Fed Gov's prerogative. PP can still receive Title X funding at their facilities which do not provide abortions.
I'm pro-life, but hasn't it been a known fact for years that federal funds have never gone towards abortions at planned parenthood and other clinics for women?
Only if you don't consider staffing, overhead (e.g., facility rent or mortgage, etc.), supplies, water, electricity, etc., etc. resources needed to perform abortions.
There is no way to disaggregate the funding 100% other than to limit federal funding to facilities which do not perform abortions.
Last time I checked, several religions prohibited murder
no one is forcing those people to have abortions.
the US is not a theocracy.
it's amusing that the very people who are against abortion are the same people who cling to their second amendment rights, even though children are being MURDERED by guns on a regular basis.
Why would you make a woman have a child she doesn’t want?
Birth control is available for free. Why isn't she using it? A pregnancy test and morning after pill are both available OTC at the pharmacy for under $50.
Quote:
Who is going to support these unborn?
The fathers. Same that is done when a divorce occurs and the mother cannot support the child(ren) on her own.
Interesting fact regarding that... Illinois tried to do something about the problem. A woman couldn't get public assistance for herself and her child(ren) unless a father was named on the child(ren)'s birth certificate. Why? The state wanted to go after the father for child support, first, before shelling out even more taxpayer $$$$ for public assistance. Naturally, being a Dem state, that bill never even made it to a vote.
Sure...then don't rely on our money funding abortions...PP shouldn't get taxpayer money to perform abortions. And of course they can say theydon't, but if you give them money, it does let them do so...pretty easy to just move money around to show it spent where it should be, and sell aborted baby parts to supplement income. So the abortions let them make a profit.
PP doesn't perform mammograms...
Your entire post is inaccurate.
Congratulations!
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent
If federal funds are used to pay for staffing, overhead, operating expenses, supplies, etc., at PP facilities that provide abortions
Two words: INDEPENDENT AUDIT
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Only if you don't consider staffing, overhead (e.g., facility rent or mortgage, etc.), supplies, water, electricity, etc., etc. resources needed to perform abortions.
There is no way to disaggregate the funding 100% other than to limit federal funding to facilities which do not perform abortions.
Ah, but there is. It's called an independent audit. All nonprofit organizations subject themselves to them. The independent audit is on top of whatever auditing Medicaid and Title X require.
Sure...then don't rely on our money funding abortions...PP shouldn't get taxpayer money to perform abortions. And of course they can say theydon't, but if you give them money, it does let them do so...pretty easy to just move money around to show it spent where it should be, and sell aborted baby parts to supplement income. So the abortions let them make a profit.
PP doesn't perform mammograms... https://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/pl...nd-mammograms/
IF they wanted, they could provide every other service, like std screenings, birth control, pap smears,prenatal care and not abortions and have the govt fund them...if they thought those services were important. They don't think they are that important...abortions allow them to sell baby parts, and make a profit...have you seen their payroll of their execs???
Or their campaign donations. During the 2016 election, PP (650 facilities, nationwide) spent over $4 million on political donations. Meanwhile, Public Health Department Family Planning Clinics (over 14,000 located nationwide) don't donate to political parties/campaigns. All their Title X funding actually goes to providing contraceptives and health care to girls and women.
Or their campaign donations. During the 2016 election, PP (650 facilities, nationwide) spent over $4 million on political donations. Meanwhile, Public Health Department Family Planning Clinics (over 14,000 located nationwide) don't donate to political parties/campaigns. All their Title X funding actually goes to providing contraceptives and health care to girls and women.
And all of Planned Parenthood's Title X finding goes toward family planning services as well.
I suggest you learn to read an audit before you embarrass yourself any further.
And don't forget that Planned Parenthood is included in those 14,000 publicly funded (NOT "Public Health Department" - most of them are private nonprofit organizations) family planning clinics you mentioned ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent
They call their pre-abortion appointments "prenatal care."
Cute.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
